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00:00:00mitch McConnell, john boehner, and, yes, reince priebus.
00:00:04Look at its agenda on gun safety.
00:00:05Do nothing, or should I say nutin at all?
00:00:10Or should I say, nothing at all.
00:00:13Leave it the way it is.
00:00:16Getting bargain basement wages for people who businesses can make a lot of money?
00:00:20Keep it up.
00:00:21Government deficits in to deal.
00:00:22Cut meals on wheels, cut the soup kitchens, while as jon stewart puts it, keeping the food cart moving on first class.
00:00:29Welcome to the plan.
00:00:30Stop people from voting on the democratic side.
00:00:32Stop a democratically elected president from doing his elected swrob.
00:00:35Is this why people go into politics?
00:00:37Is it about doing nothing?
00:00:38Is nothing sacred?
00:00:40Michael steele was chairman of the republican party back when it made sense.
00:00:44Eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize winning columnist from the " anyway, senator pat toomey co-authored the compromise on background checks.
00:00:55We like him for that.
00:00:56On guns.
00:00:57This week he said the reason it failed had to do with republican opposition to the president.
00:01:00Let's listen to the senator from pennsylvania.
00:01:04>> I thought that we had settled on a really common sense approach that ought to be able to achieve a consensus.
00:01:24be perceived to be helping something that the president wants to accomplish.
00:01:29Simply because it's the president who wants to accomplish it.
00:01:32>> Well, according to the "times herald" toomey tried to clarify the statement in the same meeting.
00:01:39He said he was referring to republicans across the nation, not just across the aisle in the senate.
00:01:46"The new york times'" reporter write, what toomey was reserving to there goes deeper and wider than gun safety.
00:01:51"Republicans are clearly looking to do more than deprive mr.
00:01:54Obama victories.
00:01:56However.
00:01:56The ultimate goal is to make him appear powerless and weak, a flailing figure unable to affect the midterm elections or give the next democratic nominee a boost.
00:02:06Taking he on a gun vote is worth it if it leads to a reporter asking the president whether he has any juice left with congress as one did yesterday and leads to a bigger payoff if the president stumbles in his response, forced to assert rumors of his demise are " michael steele, has the republican party adapted?
00:02:26We don't want nothing done, we don't want this guy to get anything done.
00:02:29That's our primary purpose.
00:02:30>> I think the latter of that is certainly true.
00:02:33It goes back to mitch McCONNELL'S OPENING SALVO ON THE Night of the inauguration where they got together and said, you know, one-term president.
00:02:42So, yeah, I think that's the political operative or operation of this whole thing.
00:02:46>> Is that a party-building move for your side?
00:02:48>> I don't think it's a party-building move.
00:02:51As chairman, one thing I always wanted to do was contrast what we philosophically believed, what our principles were against the policies and the direction that the president wanted to take the country.
00:03:00That, I think, is a fair debate to have.
00:03:03And people of, you know, all stripes can agree or disagree.
00:03:08But when you just do the political, without some level of work, I mean, gingrich and clinton worked it out.
00:03:15They got some good things done.
00:03:17Reagan and tip o'neill fought like cats and dogs on policy, but they found a way to work it out.
00:03:23This kind of stalemate is not good.
00:03:25The people in the country don't want it.
00:03:27I think the party long term could hurt itself with a lot of voters.
00:03:31>> I want to get back to that.
00:03:34I think the republican party has a two-strike goal.
00:03:37Reduce the electoral.
00:03:38Tactical, maybe strategic.
00:03:39Then other part of it is, don't let this president be a hero to anybody.
00:03:44>> Well, it's not working, though.
00:03:46>> Isn't it?
00:03:46I'm wondering.
00:03:47>> But the voter suppression didn't work.
00:03:50They tried to limit the vote -- >> and the courts came in.
00:03:53Yeah.
00:03:54>> But they voted in larger numbers.
00:03:56>> Yeah.
00:03:56>> The the black turnout was higher than white turnout in this last election.
00:04:01So -- >> of course, republican courts, too.
00:04:04>> Absolutely.
00:04:04Because gene, the law is the law.
00:04:05You know?
00:04:06And the constitution is the constitution.
00:04:08So that didn't work.
00:04:09And the idea of making him not a hero to anybody, I don't think that works either.
00:04:16Now, it kind of depends on how president obama reacts, but when you're president of the united states, you do have juice.
00:04:22There is stuff you can do.
00:04:23>> Was it an odd question?
00:04:25>> It was a very odd question.
00:04:26>> It seemed like a -- it reminded me of o.j.
00:04:32Electricity juice.
00:04:33What kind of juice are we talking about?
00:04:35Political juice, clout, muscle?
00:04:36>> I think it was also an appropriate question.
00:04:38I mean, look, the bottom line is the president has eded a lot of ground.
00:04:43>> Let's start on that.
00:04:44Let's take the three big issue.
00:04:46Did the president blow it on gun ors did the other side basically put up a big wall and say we're not giving you nothing?
00:04:50>> I think he blew it on guns.
00:04:52I think the speech he gave after he was defeated in the senate vote was a speech he should have given the very next day after sandy hook to make sure the line was very clear.
00:05:03As you talked about on this show many times, johnson made it very clear, we're going to get something done, we got to get it done on guns or, you know -- >> civil rights back in '64.
00:05:13>> There is a timing -- I think that's a fair shot, although it's looking backwards.
00:05:18Let's talk about this issue of immigration which iso me, the big gold star for this guy.
00:05:22If he doesn't get immigration in the next three years, he has not had a successful legislative term here.
00:05:27My question is, are the people like ted cruz out to basically stifle any bill?
00:05:31>> Oh, I think so.
00:05:32They're going to try -- >> any bill.
00:05:34>> I think -- you know, immigration is difficult because it's so clearly in the interest of republican party.
00:05:39>> To get the -- >> to get -- >> it off their back.
00:05:41>> Get it off their back.
00:05:43And so there's going to be a lot of pushback from the republican establishment that says, wait a minute, we need to do this.
00:05:50However, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to get through.
00:05:52That dynamic -- >> they still have -- you know, I think I like your parallel to tip and reagan because there's bun parallel clear there.
00:05:58The reason republicans agree to social security reform in 83 is, they kept getting beat on it.
00:06:10>> I'm not sure how much president obama can intervene in the battles inside the republican party.
00:06:15What he can do is use executive powers, bully pulpit and veto pen -- >> let's talk about the constitution we all grew up.
00:06:26We're about the same age.
00:06:27I was telling this to our producers today, younger than me, a lot of them.
00:06:32The constitution guarantee the united states senate represents the american people.
00:06:36It represents the states.
00:06:36If you look at a map of the united states, most of the map physically is republican and conservative.
00:06:41It's rural.
00:06:41It's vast spaces in the south.
00:06:43And especially in the rocky mountain west.
00:06:46>> Yep.
00:06:47>> All that space is represented in many cases by republican senators.
00:06:49>> Right.
00:06:50>> Who are pro gun.
00:06:51>> Right.
00:06:51>> When you go to have a vote, 90% of the country wants background checks expanded.
00:06:59The senate goes the other direction.
00:07:00You go, whoa, it could be because the senate is representing land.
00:07:04You're laughing.
00:07:04The people out there in big cities go, what happened to my vote?
00:07:08My vote doesn't count a much as the guy living in utah.
00:07:12Senators of new york and california represent about 20% of the country I think and 4 senators out of 100.
00:07:19A guy from utah, you may not know the guy from utah, the second oneprobably do.
00:07:26He has as much clout as gillibrand in new york.
00:07:29>> That's a dynamic people underestimated doing into the fight, why from the very beginning on this show I took note of what harry reid said on the whole start of this gun debate.
00:07:38He pretty much said, we'll take a look.
00:07:40Basically we're going to slow this down because he understood the very principle you just identified that the vote doesn't line up w necessarily the sentiment.
00:07:48>> Let's take a look at this.
00:07:49Republican national committee has a new ad out there.
00:07:51It's a web ad.
00:07:52These are the cheap ones they don't spend much money on.
00:07:56We, of course, cover them.
00:07:57They're practically gloating.
00:07:59This has priebus' name all over it, or his nature.
00:08:03>> Only 100 days into his second term, already faced a string of defeats in congress.
00:08:07>> Do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this congress?
00:08:12>> Put it that way, jonathan, maybe I should just pack up and go home.
00:08:23>> The gun bill failed.
00:08:25The sequester appears here to stay, and immigration reform is still a glimmer of hope largely because the president has stayed out of it.
00:08:32>> Maybe I should just pack up and go home.
00:08:37>> I don't know who was the first guy or woman to make that ad.
00:08:40The guy's not really standing up street.
00:08:43He's on a not diagonal.
00:08:47The music is strange.
00:08:48The voice, sarcastic.
00:08:50>> That's politics.
00:08:52>> Politics, where does it take you in the end?
00:08:54Barack obama's not running for anything.
00:08:56He's not going to run for anything.
00:08:59There are things he wants to do for -- >> gene, you and I agree on a lot of things.
00:09:05The history books.
00:09:05He wants unemployment rate to go down.
00:09:08He wants it in the history books.
00:09:10How does he get in the history books if the repubs stymie him?
00:09:15Maybe he can get past the gun thing.
00:09:17Immigration is his baby.
00:09:18If they say no, if people like ted cruz and mike lee of utah, the junior senator out there, people like rand paul blow it, they say 60 votes or nothing, they keep from getting the 60, he'll never get in the house and nothing's going to happen.
00:09:34Gene, who wins then?
00:09:35>> Well -- >> gene?
00:09:35>> Well, then he doesn't get the bill.
00:09:37>> So the scorched earth policy works.
00:09:39So the negativity the republican party gets what it wants, a noncreative president.
00:09:44>> Does the president get to determine what the house and what the senate do?
00:09:52No.
00:09:53He doesn't get -- >> the public expects it.
00:09:55>> The public holds the president responsible.
00:09:58I think he should throw some elbows.
00:10:00>> Didn't he say, in a pretty rough elbow there, in basketball terms in the press conference?
00:10:06>> I think members of the senate and the house should feel they have to pay for these if they're going to vote against him.
00:10:15I don't think taking him to dinner or lunch is going to solve it.
00:10:17>> The only people who are getting hurt are the people who don't like kelly ayotte this week.
00:10:24People like heidi heidkamp in north dakota, they're doing swimmingly who voted against the -- >> he's got the ultimate tool, chris, it's called that bully pulpit.
00:10:39He's used it ine feblgtsively.
00:10:42>> The latest "new york times"/cbs poll.
00:10:46Voters in general and republicans specifically overwhelmingly back the president's position on background checks for gun purchases.
00:10:54And his role, position on path to citizenship under immigration reform.
00:10:56Take a look at this.
00:11:0086% Of republicans say there should be stronger background checks.
00:11:02This is republicans.
00:11:0484% Say there should be a path to citizenship.
00:11:07Offer for illegal immigrants.
00:11:09Despite the overwhelming support nr these issues that obama agrees with, the country is deeply divided over who they trust on the issues of gun and immigration.
00:11:16Catch this.
00:11:16You'll like this, michael.
00:11:18Republicans in congress, I have to say, have a slight edge when it comes to guns.
00:11:23President has a slight end on immigration.
00:11:25On the topics of guns and immigration, look at what congressman jack kingston, smart guy from georgia, told "the new york times" about what backing he gets back home.
00:11:34"There was a lot of washington talk about the gun bills possibilities but I never saw that reflected in the people at home.
00:11:41Now there's all this buzz about the immigration reform.
00:11:42And that is not reflected, " gene, all this -- these big polls reflect popular opinion including a lot of votes in the big cities and the suburbs.
00:11:52You get out into rural areas in this country, which is a lot of this country, conservative views on guns and immigration.
00:11:58>> That's true.
00:11:58But those numbers are not insignificant.
00:12:01If you've got 86% who say they favor something -- >> it should include the rural areas.
00:12:08>> By nature, you're using the bully pulpit pretty wells right?
00:12:12Because he's got public o pin whereon on his side, on these issues.
00:12:15Now, maybe there's some level of trust of confidence reflected in that second group of figures where it's much closer.
00:12:24Maybe there's something else he needs to do.
00:12:27I'm not quite sure what that is.
00:12:31You get 86%.
00:12:32You figure you won the issue.
00:12:33>> I have to go something so primitive, people wonder if I'm serious.
00:12:35I've always wondered whether people tell the pollsters what they want to hear.
00:12:37>> Yes, they do.
00:12:40>> Somebody with a perfect -- do you give people what they think they want to hear?
00:12:47Of course I'm for gun safety.
00:12:50Are you for background checks for people who are criminally insane?
00:12:55>> People don't know who -- >> wouconservatives from your party cover up their -- >> not just on the conservative side but I think emp on the liberal side on issues like gay marriage and abortion.
00:13:08I think you find -- >> are you sure?
00:13:10I think liberals are more -- >> my e-mail doesn't count because -- >> no, your e-mail will count.
00:13:15I'm just saying looking at -- i don't take a one for one correlation between what I see in a popular poll and then hue that's going to translate -- >> I'm trying to figure out why this country isn't geting reflected in congress.
00:13:31The only way to explain it is problems with the polling which you can always talk about.
00:13:34It's this visceral thing.
00:13:36Mostly the guy, the white guy, mostly, who's gun absorbed.
00:13:41Let's be honest about it.
00:13:43Absorbed without putting a negative on it.
00:13:45Really believes in the second amendment.
00:13:46Cares deeply about it and is going to remember every one of these voting opportunities.
00:13:50He's going to take that position.
00:13:53On immigration, are people ethnically conservative?
00:13:58It's not that they're racist or anything.
00:14:01They want the things the way they were.
00:14:04Are they less likely to give up a fight?
00:14:07Got to go.
00:14:08Thank you, gentlemen.
00:14:09Michael steele.
00:14:10Thank you, gene robinson.
00:14:12>>> The group emily's list says the nation is ready for a woman president and have begun their campaign to put a woman in the white house.
00:14:19Wonder who they're thinking about.
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00:14:25Republicans like to say president obama is exaggerating the pain from the sequester cuts, but let's see about that.
00:14:30Let's ask the people who run soup kitchens, for example, and food pantries in this country.
00:14:34See how they're doing on these cuts.
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00:14:37>>> Remember how republicans said they had to change after the 2012 elections?
00:14:40Then explain why the rising star of the gop right now is someone who wants things even further to the right.
00:14:47Republicans -- the republican in this case is ted cruz.
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00:14:53Actually I sort of like goldwater.
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00:16:23Today evidence that two red state democrats up for re-election next year actually helped themselves by voting yes on expanded background checks.
00:16:30Look at this.
00:16:32According to a new ppp poll, 45% of louisiana voters say they're more likely to vote for senator mary landrieu because she voted for background checks versus just a quarter of the voters who say they're less kely.
00:16:46In north carolina, women are more likely to vote for senator kay hagan because of her vote.
00:16:49Again, only a quarter said they're less likely to support her.
00:16:52They're looking in good shape.
00:16:53The poll found three quarters of voters in both states say they favor background checks.
00:16:57We'll be right back.
00:19:03" with every public appearance it seems the busz about hillary clinton in 2016 grows louder.
00:19:09Last night I was there when secretary clinton received and award from the atlanta council here in washington.
00:19:14Former secretary of state henry kissinger wases there to introduce her and did a good job.
00:19:23Here he is.
00:19:24>> At least four secretaries of state became presidents, and that sort of started focusing my mind.
00:19:33I want to tell hillary when she -- she looks at the history of secretary of state.
00:19:49It might be hope fulfilling life afterwards.
00:19:51>> Here was secretary clinton responding.
00:19:52>> When I became secretary of state, I spent a lot of time thinking about my illustrious predecessors and not primarily the ones who went on to become president.
00:20:04>> Well, they me kidding about the obvious last night.
00:20:08Everybody knows who was in the room, the polling out there of how serious hillary talk is.
00:20:13I guess maybe franklin roosevelt in '32 had these numbers or ike '52.
00:20:20Look at these numbers.
00:20:22Write them down.
00:20:2365% Support her for president.
00:20:25That number goes with both women.
00:20:28Men are one point more for it than women, actually.
00:20:31Joe biden is the only candidate in the world with double digits.
00:20:34He's way behind her.
00:20:36Andrew cuomo.
00:20:40O'malley, the governor of maryland.
00:20:42Barely get into the money here.
00:20:43How is this for an interesting piece of news?
00:20:45It was just announced this afternoon hillary clinton and new jersey governor chris christie will be featured attractions at an event for the global clinton initiative in chicago next month.
00:20:55The stated focus will, be, quote, speeding up the united states' economic recovery and nation's long-term outlook.
00:21:01The sub text, of course, 2016.
00:21:03steve McMahon is the democratic strategist, of course, we all love.
00:21:06AND jess McIntosh is spokesperson for emily's list, wokking to get women elected.
00:21:13To get women elected president of the united states.
00:21:14Jess, thank you for coming here " lay it out.
00:21:18Emily's list.
00:21:18Wonder what you're thinking about.
00:21:20>> Thanks for having me.
00:21:23We launched the madan president campaign today.
00:21:26Supports progressive women.
00:21:272012 Was a mandate for women's leadership.
00:21:29So with our mission, we expanded -- >> I'm sorry.
00:21:32What do you mean by that?
00:21:33>> We elect pro-choice democratic women.
00:21:35>> Ha happened in 2012?
00:21:36What was the mandate?
00:21:39>> We elected a historic number of democratic women to congress and emily list's quintupled its membership.
00:21:44There's so much enthusiasm around putting women in leadership positions.
00:21:48We -- >> how many members do you have?
00:21:51>> Over 2 million now.
00:21:52>> Wow.
00:21:52>> We ended the -- >> who's paying?
00:21:54>> Taking action with us.
00:21:56They're sharing, signing petitions.
00:21:58>> Is there ever in the history of this country been a group like this?
00:22:03>> As far as we know we're the only ones committed to putting women in office.
00:22:07We think that's how wto build a more progressive america.
00:22:11>> Is there a group for men like that?
00:22:14>> 250 Years to build that network.
00:22:16We're catching up.
00:22:16>> I give you the setup there.
00:22:19Steve, this is fascinating.
00:22:21You're a political expert here.
00:22:23Actually I did point out the oddity perfect that more men, one more percent, are for hillary.
00:22:28At least men have one other candidate in mind besides biden, they have cuomo in mind.
00:22:32Women only have in mind the vice president or hillary clinton.
00:22:35Overwhelmingly the former secretary of state.
00:22:37>> Yeah, if you look at this as a phenomena, it's the first time really it's happened.
00:22:40You have women candidates who have gotten a disproportionate share of women voters then men lag behind.
00:22:46>> California, isn't it 60% of the democratic voters are women?
00:22:50>> It's about 58%.
00:22:51>> Yeah, women have been deciding our elections for cycles, for decades.
00:22:56So it's about time we gave them strong women to vote for.
00:22:59They came out, we had a historic gender gap last cycle in 2012.
00:23:04I think we've seen republicans move farther and farther to the right alienating the women voters they need to win.
00:23:09They show no signs of having learned from those mistakes.
00:23:12And so we're expecting 2014 is going to be a good cycle.
00:23:17>> In a normal general election, 53% of the electorate are women.
00:23:20Women decide elections every single day.
00:23:22This group, emily's list, has been doing a great job for women candidates for a long, long time.
00:23:26This project that they're going is going to send shivers up the spine of any man thinking of running for president.
00:23:36If you put emily's list behind a single woman -- >> I know those lines.
00:23:39>> Whether it's hillary clinton or amy klobuchar or kirsten gillibrand or any of the women thinking about running for president, if you can unite women behind that candidacy, it's almost unstoppable.
00:23:51>> Okay.
00:23:52Let's look at it.
00:23:52I like to visualize these things.
00:23:57We're on television.
00:23:57We're in iowa, probably this network, msnbc, one of the others, democratic party in this case, they'll probably hold a big debate, say, in 2013.
00:24:05I'm sorry, 2015.
00:24:06>> Yes.
00:24:06>> It may be early in 2015.
00:24:08You'll have a row of people there.
00:24:10I don't know -- I don't think al sharpton is running again.
00:24:12I don't know anybody else running again.
00:24:14It will probably be martin o'malley, governor of maryland.
00:24:17It may be the -- do you think the vice president -- this is where it gets interesting.
00:24:21If secretary clinton runs, do you think the vice president will take her on, or step aside and say, no, her time has come?
00:24:29>> I think we can't visualize that stage until we know what she's doing.
00:24:33I think just about everybody, male and female in the democratic party is waiting to see what happens.
00:24:36>> Are you pushing her to run?
00:24:39>> We would certainly love her to run.
00:24:40>> If you don't get her to run, who's your candidate for president?
00:24:43>> We have a strong bench that is just as good and viable as martin o'malleys and andrew cuomos.
00:24:49>> Who's your best -- >> kgillibrand.
00:24:53>> The senator from minnesota, very popular in this city, and certainly gillibrand is really good.
00:24:59Very impressive.
00:25:00I'm not sure they have the name i.d. yet.
00:25:02>> Jess is right.
00:25:03Hillary clinton is about the great big eclipse blocking the sun and keeping everything from growing.
00:25:10>> In a positive way.
00:25:11>> She'll sit out there for a while because it suits her political or financial interests.
00:25:13She makes a lot of money giving these speeches.
00:25:16>> Tell the public that doesn't follow politics every three seconds like you do why she should stay out of the game for at least a year.
00:25:23>> First of all, sh gets $200,000 per speech.
00:25:30Secondly, it keeps her name out there and at 65% in the polls.
00:25:34It freezes the field and gives -- >> as soon as she announce, all the republican out there who don't like her will say so.
00:25:41>> The longer she stays in if she doesn't run, the better it is for joe biden.
00:25:46She keeps andrew cuomo and others from getting out of the starting gate.
00:25:52>> I'm not relevant to your cause, but I think emily's list is great.
00:25:56I think it's going be a great campaign in 2016.
00:25:58I'll be covering it.
00:26:00I just found out I'll be here doing it.
00:26:02Let me tell you what else i think.
00:26:04I think it could be a positive thing for the democrats.
00:26:06Hillary clinton will be a notch or two to the right of this president.
00:26:09I think she'll find a good sweet spot there.
00:26:10Somewhere to the right on foreign policy.
00:26:14Little notch.
00:26:17Domestic policy, I'm not sure where she's going to be.
00:26:19There's going to be plenty of space on the spectrum for other people to run against her.
00:26:23Martin o'malley maybe.
00:26:25I think deval patrick would be a good candidate.
00:26:26There are a lot of -- perhaps another woman candidate.
00:26:29I think it will be fabulous.
00:26:31>> There's space but may not be courage.
00:26:32It takes courage.
00:26:33>> They're crazy not to run.
00:26:34If you run with hillary, you'll be on the same stage with a great person and you're going to look great.
00:26:40steve McMahon.
00:26:40jess McIntosh.
00:26:41Please come back.
00:26:42>>> Up next, you say you want a revolution.
00:26:44How about half the republicans think it may be coming?
00:26:47I'm in a happy mood, now I'm not.
00:26:49A lot of people in this country think we're headed toward an actual revolution to protect our civil liberties like in 1776.
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00:30:12" now to the sideshow.
00:30:20Conspiracy edition.
00:30:20Mm.
00:30:21How do we know conspiracy theories are growing about the government?
00:30:25A survey asked people if they thought armed revolt might be necessary to protect civil liberties in this country.
00:30:30Buckle your seat belts an these answers.
00:30:3529% Said it might be necessary in this country.
00:30:37Break it down by party, 18% of democrats agreed armed revolt might be necessary to protect our civil liberties.
00:30:42But 44% of republicans said so.
00:30:45So that's 3-10 all together who say we may be headed for armed rebellion.
00:30:51Doing their part to help the conspiracy cause along, senator inhov, of course, of the global warming is a hoax theory.
00:30:59His former republican oklahoma congressman frank lucas.
00:31:02According to inhofe, "president obama has been adamant about cushing law-abiding americans' access and opportunities to exercise their second amendment rights.
00:31:10One way the obama administration is able to do that," he says "is by limiting what's available in the market with federies purchasing unnecessary stockpiles of ammunition.
00:31:22So as he say, inhofe, the government is out there secretly buying up all the bullets so there won't be any of those bullets out there in the stores for rest of us.
00:31:30Inhofe and lucas proposed a bill last week that would ban federal agencies from buying ammunition if their agency stockpile is larger than it was under the only the pentagon would be exempt.
00:31:43Well, they've got company here.
00:31:44Here's new hampshire senator, representative, state senator, actually state representative edman gione who had a question for republican senator kelly ayotte at a town hall meeting on tuesday.
00:31:56>> One of the things that concerns my constituent, the majority of my constituents, is that the appointments that are now being made in washington by our president and the way he's handling immigrants and nationalizing them and giving them the opportunity to vote and wanting to keep track of our guns.
00:32:23They're worried we have to use our own guns.
00:32:26Is there anything in washington that says, any telltale signs, we might be headed to a revolution given the fact these things are going on that's what was said in the group I'm in.
00:32:40>> Sounds like the poll results we just gave you are at work in that guy's head.
00:32:45Serious by election.
00:32:45By the way, senator ayotte at the town meeting, running it, in fact, did not express concern in her answer about an armed revolt. anyway.
00:32:54There's republican state senator trella tremblay who alerted her constituents to a video suggesting president obama was not born in the united states now says she's convinced the boston marathon attack was a hoax.
00:33:10Why?
00:33:10According to tremblay, one of the victims didn't seem to be in enough pain.
00:33:16>> My first gut reaction seeing the horror of that person that had their legs blown off, you know, with the bones sticking out -- >> yes, ma'am.
00:33:23>> And he was not in shock and i looked and I thought, there's something -- I don't know what's wrong, but it seems surreal to me.
00:33:31He was not in shock.
00:33:32He was not in pain.
00:33:37>> Again, tremblay, that state senator is an elected official of the state of new hampshire and credits extreme right wing conspiracy theorist alex jones.
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00:37:17Stocks surging thanks to better than expected jobless numbers, at a rate cut from the yearen central bank.
00:37:23Dow jumping 130 points.
00:37:24S&p adding 14.
00:37:25The nasdaq saw a 41-point gain.
00:37:29>>> Filings were weekly unemployment benefits fell by 18,000 to their lowest level since january of 2008.
00:37:33>>> Meantime, a separate report found planned layoffs dropped to the low ef level of the year last month.
00:37:40Reports come one day before the all-important april jobs data from the labor department.
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00:37:50" >>> we're challenged.
00:37:54Sequester is hurting.
00:37:55Sequester is hurting in a big, big way.
00:37:59We serve over a million meals a day.
00:38:00These aren't the people that can go out and shout in the streets and make sure that the folks up on capitol hill know what's going on.
00:38:07Now you're truly shut in.
00:38:08" lnight way brought you chairman of the board of directors for the meals on wheels association of america to explain the toll, the across the board spending cuts known as sequester, some of america's most vulnerable people.
00:38:24Here's the director of the community oncology alliance talking about the effects of these arbitrary cuts on some cancer patients.
00:38:32>> I had spoke to another practice administor in salt lake city.
00:38:36She has an 82-year-old patient, a lymphoma survivor who has to travel 62 miles.
00:38:42>> You already have cancer, now you have this.
00:38:46We've told you about some of the programs hurt by sequester huts.
00:38:49Special education and head start, of course.
00:38:52That's just a sampling.
00:38:53We're going to keep track, by the way, of those for whom these cuts are the unkindest of all.
00:38:58Usually the poor, elderly, disabled and disenfranchised generally.
00:39:03We're going to call it the unkindest cut from shakespeare, of course.
00:39:11Affects people who use food pantries and soup kitchens.
00:39:15Joe berg is executive director of an umbrella soup for soup kitchens across the country and food pantries many of which are partially federally funded.
00:39:27Josh green for "bloomberg " gentlemen, thank you for joining us.
00:39:33Tell us what this sequestration which seems like a theory to a lot of people is doing to your work?
00:39:38>> It has eliminated our new york city vista americorps program.
00:39:43Americorps is a domestic peace corps that allows low income and middle-class kids to serve their nation and get a small educational award in exchange.
00:39:50We had 11 people placed in soup kitchens and food pantries in new york city and that has been eliminated by the sequestration.
00:39:57Also the sequestration cut $5 million out of the fema emergency food and shelter program.
00:40:03The main source of federal cash for soup kitchens, food pantry, food banks and homelessness prevention organizations around the country.
00:40:11That program was already slashed over the last three years and is is now 60% lets than in 2009.
00:40:17>> Of course the weather's getting a little better.
00:40:21It's not as bad in the shelter as in the harshness of winter.
00:40:25Anybody who watches homeless people in the winter can only feel for them when they get under the cardboard boxes and stuff.
00:40:33How many people have you had to turn people back for lunch or dinner, that kind of thing?
00:40:39>> The national cuts are going to take away at least a few million meals.
00:40:42Here in new york city because of the other cuts, 2/3 of the soup kitchens and food pantries in new york city already have to ration food.
00:40:49Turn people away.
00:40:50Reduce portions size.
00:40:52Reduce hours of operation.
00:40:53And this is a city that has 53 billionaires with combined net worth of $230 billion.
00:40:59We can certainly afford, as a city and as a nation, to fund these programs, but we're not.
00:41:05>> That's terrible.
00:41:07Let go to josh green.
00:41:09Your view about this as a reporter.
00:41:11This is so far an unreported story.
00:41:12We're going to do our bid here, on the unkindness cut, a line from a speech of what happened to cesar.
00:41:22This is what happened to little people, not cesar.
00:41:24We're getting a lot of attention, we had a lot of talk about the fact the air traffic controllers had to get their money.
00:41:29That that was an exception.
00:41:30My question, it's a political question, why doesn't some smart liberal, or progressive, on the floor of the house, bring a bill to the floor that says why don't we bring back the meals on wheels program?
00:41:41Why don't we bring back the subsidies for food pantries.
00:41:43Then it jammed the -- even the conservative members into voting for it.
00:41:48>> I'm not sure it would jam the conservative members.
00:41:50If you look at some of the republican policies, especially in the house, they've wanted to cut exactly these social programs in order to pay for tax cuts.
00:41:57I think as a reporter the interesting story here, though, is it really throws into sharp relief the kind of lobbying power that certain organizations have like the aircraft owners and pilots association versus programs like head start and soup kitchens that don't have that kind of lobbying clout.
00:42:15You see the results in what's happened.
00:42:17>> Well, let me go back to joel, then.
00:42:21Teach me something here.
00:42:26Fema.
00:42:28We think of fema to help in jersey and new york, hepping families in terrible shape along the coast there.
00:42:32My sense is fema does that kind of work.
00:42:35I'm learning fema helps feed people who are generally hungry.
00:42:38>> There's a long-term disaster in america.
00:42:4050 Million americans now live in households that can't afford enough food.
00:42:45There's a great irony certain conservatives like representative peter king, when there was a delay in sandy relief funding to his district, went ballistic rightfully so.
00:42:55That the aid was delayed and he said no one should two hungry, no one should lack a roof over their head because of sandy.
00:43:02I just hope more people in congress would understand that there's a long-term disaster that happens every day.
00:43:08You know, it seems these days congress is good at two things.
00:43:11Making their own lives easier.
00:43:12And making the lives of low-income people harder.
00:43:15>> How do you express that with poor people?
00:43:17Are you going to have rallies?
00:43:19Going to have people protest?
00:43:20How do you get to be -- my dad used to call it a squeaky wheel.
00:43:24Squeaky wheels, as we were just talking about here, get the grease.
00:43:28>> We need to rebuild the poor king did.
00:43:34>> Or abernathy, too.
00:43:37Ralph abernathy.
00:43:39>> They pressured richard nixon for the creation of the safety net which reduced hunger in america.
00:43:44We need to better organize the 50 million americans in these straits and convince middle class americans and others it's in their collective self-interest to reduce hunger in america because no superpower in the history of the world has remained a superpower, has remained economically competitive if they let tens of millions of their own residents go hungry.
00:44:05>> Let's thank jon stewart.
00:44:06He said the only food they care about is the food on the tray coming down the first class aisle.
00:44:11Thank you, joel berg.
00:44:12Thank you, josh green, coming back from great reporting there.
00:44:14>>> Up next, senator ted cruz for president?
00:44:16Some conservatives say he's a rock star and could be another barry goldwater.
00:44:20A lot of us like barry goldwater personally.
00:44:24I'm not sure this guy is quite as lovable, and certainly not cuddly.
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00:46:22It's also legal in washington state, of course, iowa, maryland, as well as the district of columbia.
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00:48:54Ted cruz to the list of republicans who may be considering running for president in 2016.
00:49:00Freshman tea party senator from texas is a rock star to some conservatives.
00:49:04He's outspoken, fearless.
00:49:06He doesn't shy away -- I buy all that.
00:49:09His snarky remarks just aren't aimed at his political opponents.
00:49:14Here he is criticizing members of his own republican party.
00:49:16>> Look, there are a lot of people that don't like to be held accountable, but here was their argument.
00:49:23They said, listen, before you did this, the politics of it were great.
00:49:26The dems were the bad guys, the republicans were the good guys.
00:49:30Now we all look like a bunch of squishes.
00:49:35It's like, well, there is an alternative.
00:49:37You could just not alternative.
00:49:39You could just not be a bunch of squishes.
00:49:43>> Well, one concern is cruz could be another barry gold water.
00:49:51He may also fire up the base.
00:49:56John feehery and joan walsh are here.
00:50:00It sounds like house snapping across the aisle, a reference to people who are republican but believed there is a reasonable agreement for wider background checks.
00:50:13Could your party veer that far over that they'd go to somebody as tough as this guy, as hard-lined?
00:50:19>> It could.
00:50:21He's got the party tied up.
00:50:23I think it will go to the governor.
00:50:25It could be a governor like mike pence who is very conservative.
00:50:31I remember people talking about mark sanford being a presidential candidate.
00:50:35>> What about the political spectrum?
00:50:37My hunch, as I've said, I think hillary will run a notch or two to the right of president obama.
00:50:45That's the sweet spot for any party.
00:50:47Will your guy be to the left or right of mitt romney?
00:50:51>> He'll be to the right but not as far right as ted cruz.
00:50:54He would be somewhere in the middle.
00:50:57Although I will say, chris christie could get the -- >> well, he wouldn't be to the right.
00:51:02>> No, he won't.
00:51:05>> He could possibly beat hillary.
00:51:08>> Republicans don't win primaries.
00:51:09You know that better than I do.
00:51:11I don't think chris christie is going to scratch the itch that needs to be scratched.
00:51:17Ted cruz does it.
00:51:19If there's several tea party candidates, rubio, rand paul, my friend, and ted cruz, then maybe a christie or a pence has a better chance because they are fighting amongst themselves f they get smart and decide only one of them is going to run, cruz could be formidable.
00:51:39>> He won when I thought he could win and then it didn't quite work because of the demographic changes we didn't know were come.
00:51:49They came and more young people, more african-americans, late teen knows voted and made it harder for your party.
00:51:55My question again to you is, what is the natural instinctive question of getting smacked?
00:52:01Is it hard right or hard middle?
00:52:06>> Listen, that depends on what's the big issue of the moment.
00:52:10I do think that this party is going to want to win because they are not going to want hillary clinton to win.
00:52:17>> I think it's too nasty.
00:52:19In the end, parties fit a simple mold.
00:52:22Bill clinton is likable.
00:52:24Barack obama, they like his smile, like him personally, they like the family.
00:52:28Cruz looks so tough.
00:52:29>> He's really tough.
00:52:30Could you imagine him debating hillary?
00:52:33Democrats would be -- we would be celebrating from the beginning.
00:52:36But the real thing, john, is that if you've got -- if marco rubio has been damaged by pushing for immigration reform while your party needs some latino voters, that's a terrible sign for 2016.
00:52:48>> The fascinating thing that's gone on with pat toomey and marco rubio is they have all found that issue to try to tap to the middle.
00:52:57Ted cruz hasn't found that issue.
00:52:58The request he is, does he want to or does he want to follow in THE FOOT STEPS OF jim DeMint and end up at the heritage foundation.
00:53:08>> The next rick santorum, follow the campaign, stay to the right but own it.
00:53:13>> Santorum tried to move to the center and lost his re-election and then tapped far to the right to try to get the nomination.
00:53:19>> Here's the danger for your party.
00:53:23Hillary clinton will go after the worst in why you are party.
00:53:25She won't debate the guy running against her.
00:53:27She'll debate theelements of your party.
00:53:32>> Our problem with hillary clinton, is we have a gender gap problem, a hispanic problem.
00:53:38We need someone to expand the base.
00:53:40>> What about the woman my age who says it's about time we had a woman president?
00:53:44How do you fight that argument if she's obviously qualified?
00:53:47>> It's a tough one.
00:53:49You've got to find a woman who -- there's a lot of women that will vote purely on that.
00:53:53You've got to make this a competence zish competence issue with hillary?
00:53:58Good luck.
00:53:58>> I think hillary is a tough candidate for us, but we'll see.
00:54:02I'm not going to predict that right now.
00:54:04I don't think these going to get the nomination.
00:54:06Don't think she's going to run.
00:54:08>> You don't think she's going to run?
00:54:10We don't know.
00:54:10>> Let's put it this way, I hope she doesn't run.
00:54:12>> I think she's going to play it safe for a while, not make much noise, wait a year out.
00:54:21>> Joan walsh, thank you, as always, good to see you here in , john feehery, as always.
00:54:29>>> When we return, let me give some advice for anyone thinking of running against hillary clinton.
00:54:36I know I'm walking on coals.
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00:58:13>>> Let me finish tonight with this.
00:58:15The polls show that hillary clinton is by historic standards the run away favorite to be the next candidate for president.
00:58:22I agree.
00:58:23She's been a good teammate for obama, has a resume like no one's ever seen, one that is even stronger when you include the years in which she played her role as bill clinton's counselor.
00:58:36She knows what it's like to be president and what it's like to be there when things are going well and not so well.
00:58:41A word to those thinking of running against her, do it.
00:58:47Make your case heroically, proudly, if you do get elected.
00:58:52Everything I know about politics is that the uncanny move and a brilliant one.
00:58:57Put yourself in a place where you can't lose because no one's expecting you to win.
00:59:02You beat the spread by jumping in the race in the first place.
00:59:06You're ahead to begin with.
00:59:10You just never know when the sidelines is nowhere to fine or stand when you want to know what your chances are.
00:59:17I try to never believe in the expected.
00:59:19I believe deeply in the person trying the hardest road because those are the kind of people i want running the country.
00:59:27That's "hardball" for now.
00:59:29"Politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now.
00:59:33>>> Thanks, chris, and thanks to
00:00:04>>> Strategy of doom.
00:00:05" >>> good evening.
00:00:15I'm chris matthews in washington.
00:00:19Let me start tonight with this.
00:00:22Imagine being a member of a political party whose only initiative, whose only recent mission, whose only active purpose these days is to find ways to keep member of the other party, blacks, young people, the elderly, from voting?
00:00:36And oh yeah, keeping the president of the united states from getting anything done.
00:00:39Meet the republican party of mitch McConnell, john boehner, and, yes, reince priebus.
00:00:41Look at its agenda on gun safety.
00:00:43Do nothing, or should I say nutin' at all?
00:00:46Or should I say, nothing at all.
00:00:47Leave it the way it is.
00:00:50Getting bargain basement wages for people who businesses can make a lot of money?
00:00:54Keep it up.
00:00:55Government deficits in to deal.
00:00:55Cut meals on wheels, cut the soup kitchens, while as jon stewart puts it, keeping the food cart moving on first class.
00:01:04Welcome to the plan.
00:01:05Stop people from voting on the democratic side.
00:01:07Stop a democratically elected president from doing his elected job.
00:01:12Is this why people go into politics?
00:01:14Is it about doing nothing?
00:01:18Is nothing sacred?
00:01:18Michael steele was chairman of the republican party back when it made sense.
00:01:24Eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize winning columnist from the " anyway, senator pat toomey co-authored the compromise on background checks.
00:01:34We like him for that.
00:01:35On guns.
00:01:35This week he said the reas failed had to do with republican opposition to the president.
00:01:37Let's listen to the senator from pennsylvania.
00:01:40>> I thought that we had settled on a really common sense approach that ought to be able to achieve a consensus.
00:01:49I think in the end we didn't e become so polarized.
00:01:56And there are people on my side who didn't want to be perceived to be helping something that the president wants to accomplish.
00:02:04Simply because it's the president who wants to accomplish it.
00:02:09>> Well, according to the "times herald" toomey tried to clarify the statement in the same meeting.
00:02:18He said he was referring to republicans across the nation, not just across the aisle in the senate.
00:02:29"The new york times'" reporter write, what toomey was reserving to there goes deeper and wider than gun safety.
00:02:37"Republicans are clearly looking to do more than deprive mr.
00:02:38Obama victories.
00:02:39However.
00:02:41The ultimate goal is to make him appear powerless and weak, a flailing figure unable to affect the midterm elections or give the next democratic nominee a boost.
00:03:01Taking heat on a gun vote is worth it if it leads to a reporter asking the president whether he has any juice left with congress as one did yesterday and leads to a bigger payoff if the president stumbles in his response, forced to assert rumors of his demise are " michael steele, has the republican party adapted?
00:03:28We don't want nothing done, we don't want this guy to get anything done.
00:03:31That's our primary purpose.
00:03:32>> I think the latter of that is certainly true.
00:03:33It goes back to mitch McCONNELL'S OPENING SALVO ON THE Night of the inauguration where they got together and said, you know, one-term president.
00:03:38So, yeah, I think that's the political operative or operation of this whole thing.
00:03:40>> Is that a party-building move for your side?
00:03:41>> I don't think it's a party-building move.
00:03:42As chairman, one thing I always wanted to do was contrast what we philosophically believed, what our principles were against the policies and the direction that the president wanted to take the country.
00:03:50That, I think, is a fair debate to have.
00:03:55And people of, you know, all stripes can agree or disagree.
00:03:58But when you just do the political, without some level of work, I mean, gingrich and clinton worked it out.
00:04:05They got some good things done.
00:04:06Reagan and tip o'neill fought like cats and dogs on policy, but they found a way to work it out.
00:04:12This kind of stalemate is not good.
00:04:13The people in the country don't want it.
00:04:14I think the party long term could hurt itself with a lot of voters.
00:04:19>> I want to get back to that.
00:04:22I think the republican party has a two-strike goal.
00:04:23Reduce the electoral.
00:04:24Tactical, maybe strategic.
00:04:25Then other part of it is, don't let this president be a hero to anybody.
00:04:27>> Well, it's not working, though.
00:04:28>> Isn't it?
00:04:28I'm wondering.
00:04:30>> But the voter suppression didn't work.
00:04:32They tried to limit the vote -- >> and the courts came in.
00:04:34Yeah.
00:04:36>> But they voted in larger numbers.
00:04:38>> Yeah.
00:04:39>> The the black turnout was higher than white turnout in this last election.
00:04:45So -- >> of course, republican courts, too.
00:04:50>> Absolutely.
00:04:53Because gene, the law is the law.
00:04:57You know?
00:04:59And the constitution is the constitution.
00:05:00So that didn't work.
00:05:03And the idea of making him not a hero to anybody, I don't think that works either.
00:05:07Now, it kind of depends on how president obama reacts, but when you're president of the united states, you do have juice.
00:05:12There is stuff you can do.
00:05:16>> Was it an odd question?
00:05:16>> It was a very odd question.
00:05:18>> It seemed like a -- it reminded me of o.j.
00:05:19Electricity juice.
00:05:19What kind of juice are we talking about?
00:05:20Political juice, clout, muscle?
00:05:21>> I think it was also an appropriate question.
00:05:22I mean, look, the bottom line is the president has seeded a lot of ground.
00:05:24>> Let's start on that.
00:05:25Let's take the three big issue.
00:05:26Did the president blow it on guns or did the other side basically put up a big wall and say we're not giving you nothing?
00:05:31>> I think he blew it on guns.
00:05:33I think the speech he gave after he was defeated in the senate vote was a speech he should have given the very next day after sandy hook to make sure the line was very clear.
00:05:48As you talked about on this show many times, johnson made it very clear, we're going to get something done, we got to get it done on guns or, you know -- >> civil rights back in '64.
00:05:57>> There is a timing -- I think that's a fair shot, although it's looking backwards.
00:06:03Let's talk about this issue of immigration which is, to me, the big gold star for this guy.
00:06:06If he doesn't get immigration in the next three years, he has not had a successful legislative term here.
00:06:14My question is, are the people like ted cruz out to basically stifle any bill?
00:06:20>> Oh, I think so.
00:06:23They're going to try -- >> any bill.
00:06:26>> I think -- you know, immigration is difficult because it's so clearly in the interest of republican party.
00:06:30>> To get the -- >> to get -- >> it off their back.
00:06:35>> Get it off their back.
00:06:39And so there's going to be a lot of pushback from the republican establishment that says, wait a minute, we need to do this.
00:06:44However, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to get through.
00:06:46That dynamic -- >> they still have -- you know, I think I like your parallel to tip and reagan because there's one parallel clear there.
00:06:50The reason republicans agree to social security reform in '83, they kept getting beat on it.
00:06:52>> I'm not sure how much president obama can intervene in the battles inside the republican party.
00:06:58What he can do is use executive powers, bully pulpit and veto pen -- >> let's talk about the constitution we all grew up.
00:07:04We're about the same age.
00:07:05I was telling this to our producers today, younger than me, a lot of them.
00:07:12The constitution doesn't guarantee the united states senate represents the american people.
00:07:17It represents the states.
00:07:18If you look at a map of the united states, most of the map physically is republican and conservative.
00:07:20It's rural.
00:07:21It's vast spaces in the south.
00:07:22And especially in the rocky mountain west.
00:07:23>> Yep.
00:07:25>> All that space is represented in many cases by republican senators.
00:07:29>> Right.
00:07:31>> Who are pro gun.
00:07:32>> Right.
00:07:34>> When you go to have a vote, 90% of the country wants background checks expanded.
00:07:38The senate goes the other direction.
00:07:43You go, whoa, it could be because the senate is representing land.
00:07:48You're laughing.
00:07:48The people out there in big cities go, what happened to my vote?
00:07:53My vote doesn't count as much as the guy living in utah.
00:07:56Senators of new york and california represent about 20% of the country I think and 4 senators out of 100.
00:08:04A guy from utah, you may not know the guy from utah, the second one, you probably do.
00:08:06He has as much clout as gillibrand in new york.
00:08:07>> That's a dynamic people underestimated doing into the fight, why from the very beginning on this show I took note of what harry reid said on the whole start of this gun debate.
00:08:17He pretty much said, we'll take a look.
00:08:21Basically we're going to slow this down because he understood the very principle you just identified that the vote doesn't line up with necessarily the sentiment.
00:08:33>> Let's take a look at this.
00:08:34Republican national committee has a new ad out there.
00:08:40It's a web ad.
00:08:41These are the cheap ones they don't spend much money on.
00:08:43We, of course, cover them.
00:08:44They're practically gloating.
00:08:44This has priebus' name all over it, or his nature.
00:08:46>> Only 100 days into his second term, already faced a string of defeats in congress.
00:08:48>> Do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this congress?
00:08:55>> Put it that way, jonathan, maybe I should just pack up and go home.
00:08:59>> The gun bill failed.
00:09:01The sequester appears here to stay, and immigration reform is still a glimmer of hope largely because the president has stayed out of it.
00:09:08>> Maybe I should just pack up and go home.
00:09:09>> I don't know who was the first guy or woman to make that ad.
00:09:13The guy's not really standing up street.
00:09:16He's on a not diagonal.
00:09:18The music is strange.
00:09:21The voice, sarcastic.
00:09:23>> That's politics.
00:09:25>> Politics, where does it take you in the end?
00:09:29Barack obama's not running for anything.
00:09:32He's not going to run for anything.
00:09:35There are things he wants to do for -- >> gene, you and I agree on a lot of things.
00:09:38He wants it in the history books.
00:09:39He wants unemployment rate to go down.
00:09:40He wants it in the history books.
00:09:43How does he get in the history books if the republicans stymie him?
00:09:45Maybe he can get past the gun thing.
00:09:48Immigration is his baby.
00:09:48If they say no, if people like ted cruz and mike lee of utah, the junior senator out there, people like rand paul blow it, they say 60 votes or nothing, they keep from getting the 60, he'll never get in the house and nothing's going to happen.
00:10:02Gene, who wins then?
00:10:03>> Well -- >> gene?
00:10:06>> Well, then he doesn't get the bill.
00:10:09>> So the scorched earth policy works.
00:10:14So the negativity the republican party gets what it wants, a noncreative president.
00:10:17>> Does the president get to determine what the house and what the senate do?
00:10:24No.
00:10:26He doesn't get -- >> the public expects it.
00:10:30>> The public holds the president responsible.
00:10:35I think he should throw some elbows.
00:10:36>> Didn't he say, in a pretty rough elbow there, in basketball terms in the press conference?
00:10:41>> I think members of the senate and the house should feel they have to pay for these if they're going to vote against him.
00:10:48I don't think taking him to dinner or lunch is going to solve it.
00:10:51>> The only people who are getting hurt are the people who don't like kelly ayotte this week.
00:10:57People like heidi heitkamp in north dakota, they're doing swimmingly who voted against the -- >> he's got the ultimate tool, chris, it's called that bully pulpit.
00:11:13He's used it ineffectively.
00:11:14>> The latest "new york times"/cbs poll.
00:11:18Voters in general and republicans specifically overwhelmingly back the president's position on background checks for gun purchases.
00:11:28And his role, position on path to citizenship under immigration reform.
00:11:33Take a look at this.
00:11:3486% Of republicans say there should be stronger background checks.
00:11:42This is republicans.
00:11:4284% Say there should be a path to citizenship.
00:11:43Offer for illegal immigrants.
00:11:44Despite the overwhelming support for these issues that obama agrees with, the country is deeply divided over who they trust on the issues of gun and immigration.
00:11:57Catch this.
00:11:58You'll like this, michael.
00:11:59Republicans in congress, I have to say, have a slight edge when it comes to guns.
00:12:03President has a slight end on immigration.
00:12:06On the topics of guns and immigration, look at what congressman jack kingston, smart guy from georgia, told "the new york times" about what backing he gets back home.
00:12:14"There was a lot of washington talk about the gun bills possibilities but I never saw that reflected in the people at home.
00:12:25Now there's all this buzz about the immigration reform.
00:12:29And that is not reflected, " gene, all this -- these big polls reflect popular opinion including a lot of votes in the big cities and the suburbs.
00:12:40You get out into rural areas in this country, which is a lot of this country, conservative views on guns and immigration.
00:12:47>> That's true.
00:12:49But those numbers are not insignificant.
00:12:51If you've got 86% who say they favor something -- >> it should include the rural areas.
00:12:58>> By nature, you're using the bully pulpit pretty well, right?
00:13:01Because he's got public opinion on his side, on these issues.
00:13:03Now, maybe there's some level of trust of confidence reflected in that second group of figures where it's much closer.
00:13:09Maybe there's something else he needs to do.
00:13:11I'm not quite sure what that is.
00:13:12You get 86%.
00:13:15You figure you won the issue.
00:13:15>> I have to go something so primitive, people wonder if I'm serious.
00:13:24I've always wondered whether people tell the pollsters what they want >> yes, they do.
00:13:30>> Somebody with a perfect -- do you give people what they think they want to hear?
00:13:33Of course I'm for gun safety.
00:13:34Are you for background checks for people who are criminally insane?
00:13:35>> People don't know who -- >> would conservatives from your party cover up their -- >> not just on the conservative side but I think even on the liberal side on issues like gay marriage and abortion.
00:13:43I think you find -- >> are you sure?
00:13:46I think liberals are more -- >> my e-mail doesn't count because -- >> no, your e-mail will count.
00:13:52I'm just saying looking at -- i don't take a one for one correlation between what I see in a popular poll and then hue that's going to translate -- >> I'm trying to figure out why this country isn't getting reflected in congress.
00:13:59The only way to explain it is problems with the polling which you can always talk about.
00:14:03It's this visceral thing.
00:14:04Mostly the guy, the white guy, mostly, who's gun absorbed.
00:14:08Let's be honest about it.
00:14:08Absorbed without putting a negative on it.
00:14:11Really believes in the second amendment.
00:14:14Cares deeply about it and is going to remember every one of these voting opportunities.
00:14:16He's going to take that position.
00:14:17On immigration, are people ethnically conservative?
00:14:18It's not that they're racist or anything.
00:14:23They want the things the way th were.
00:14:28Are they less likely to give up a fight?
00:14:31Got to go.
00:14:36Thank you, gentlemen.
00:14:41Michael steele.
00:14:42Thank you, gene robinson.
00:14:45The nation is ready for a woman president and have begun their campaign to put a woman in the white house.
00:14:50Wonder who they're thinking about.
00:14:52>>> Our new "hardball" feature comes on tonight, the unkindest cut.
00:14:57Remember shakespeare?
00:14:58Republicans like to say president obama is exaggerating that.
00:15:04Let's ask the people who run soup kitchens, for example, and food pantries in this country.
00:15:10See how they're doing on these cuts.
00:15:13We will tonight.
00:15:15>>> Remember how republicans said they had to change after the 2012 elections?
00:15:17Then explain why the rising star of the gop right now is who wants things even further to the right.
00:15:24Republicans have.
00:15:24The republican in this case is ted cruz.
00:15:27He could be the next barry goldwater, he says.
00:15:29Actually I sort of like goldwater.
00:15:31This guy doesn't seem quite as nice.
00:15:33>>> Finally leave it to the global warming is a hoax governor.
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00:16:49>>> Well, we've seen a lot of polling that suggests senators who voted against background checks are suffering in public opinion polls.
00:16:57Today evidence that two red state democrats up for re-election next year actually helped themselves by voting yes on expanded background checks.
00:17:03Look at this.
00:17:04According to a new ppp poll, 45% of louisiana voters say they're more likely to vote for senator mary landrieu because she voted for background checks versus just a quarter of the voters who say they're less likely.
00:17:14In north carolina, women are more likely to vote for senator kay hagan because of her vote.
00:17:20Again, only a quarter said they're less likely to support her.
00:17:23They're looking in good shape.
00:17:24The poll found three quarters of voters in both states say they favor background checks.
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00:19:37" with every public appearance it seems the buzz about hillary clinton in 2016 grows louder.
00:19:42Last night I was there when secretary clinton received and award from the atlanta council here in washington.
00:19:49Former secretary of state henry kissinger was there to introduce her and did a good job.
00:19:53Here he is.
00:20:02>> At least four secretaries of state became presidents, and that sort of started focusing my mind.
00:20:08I want to tell hillary when she misses the office, she looks at the history of secretary of state, it might be hope for a fulfilling life afterwards.
00:20:22>> Here was secretary clinton responding.
00:20:27>> When I became secretary of state, I spent a lot of time thinking about my illustrious predecessors and not primarily the ones who went on to become president.
00:20:38>> Well, they may be kidding about the obvious last night.
00:20:40Everybody knows who was in the room, the polling out there of how serious hillary talk is.
00:20:46I guess maybe franklin roosevelt in '32 had these numbers or ike in '52.
00:20:52Look at these numbers.
00:20:54Write them down.
00:20:5565% Support her for president.
00:20:57That number goes with both women.
00:21:00Men are one point more for it than women, actually.
00:21:02Joe biden is the only candidate in the world with double digits.
00:21:05He's way behind her.
00:21:07Andrew cuomo.
00:21:09O'malley, the governor of maryland.
00:21:13Barely get into the money here.
00:21:14How is this for an interesting piece of news?
00:21:16It was just announced this afternoon hillary clinton and new jersey governor chris christie will be featured attractions at an event for the global clinton initiative in chicago next month.
00:21:25The stated focus will, be, quote, speeding up the united states' economic recovery and nation's long-term outlook.
00:21:28The sub text, of course, 2016.
00:21:29steve McMahon is the democratic strategist, of course, we all love.
00:21:32AND jess McIntosh is spokesperson for emily's list, working to get women elected.
00:21:40To get women elected president of the united states.
00:21:45Jess, thank you for coming here " lay it out.
00:21:52Emily's list.
00:21:53Wonder what you're thinking about.
00:21:54>> Thanks for having me.
00:21:55We launched the madam president campaign today.
00:22:02Supports progressive women.
00:22:022012 Was a mandate for women's leadership.
00:22:05So with our mission, we expanded -- >> I'm sorry.
00:22:12What do you mean by that?
00:22:13>> We elect pro-choice democratic women.
00:22:17>> What happened in 2012?
00:22:20What was the mandate?
00:22:22>> We elected a historic number of democratic women to congress and emily list's quintupled its membership.
00:22:30There's so much enthusiasm around putting women in leadership positions.
00:22:34We -- >> how many members do you have?
00:22:39>> Over 2 million now.
00:22:39>> Wow.
00:22:42>> We ended the -- >> who's paying?
00:22:44>> Taking action with us.
00:22:44They're sharing, signing petitions.
00:22:47>> Is there ever in the history of this country been a group like this?
00:22:51>> As far as we know we're the only ones committed to putting women in office.
00:22:53We think that's how we're to build a more progressive america.
00:22:56>> Is there a group for men like that?
00:22:57>> 250 Years to build that network.
00:22:59We're catching up.
00:23:01>> I give you the setup there.
00:23:02Steve, this is fascinating.
00:23:04You're a political expert here.
00:23:05Actually I did point out the oddity perfect that more men, one more percent, are for hillary.
00:23:08At least men have one other candidate in mind besides biden, they have cuomo in mind.
00:23:10Women only have in mind the vice president or hillary clinton.
00:23:11Overwhelmingly the former secretary of state.
00:23:15>> Yeah, if you look at this as a phenomena, it's the first time really it's happened.
00:23:17You have women candidates who have gotten a disproportionate share of women voters then men lag behind.
00:23:22>> California, isn't it 60% of the democratic voters are women?
00:23:23>> It's about 58%.
00:23:24>> Yeah, women have been deciding our elections for cycles, for decades.
00:23:28So it's about time we gave them strong women to vote for.
00:23:31They came out, we had a historic gender gap last cycle in 2012.
00:23:33I think we've seen republicans move farther and farther to the right alienating the women voters they need to win.
00:23:38They show no signs of having learned from those mistakes.
00:23:39And so we're expecting 2014 is going to be a good cycle.
00:23:47>> In a normal general election, 53% of the electorate are women.
00:23:54Women decide elections every single day.
00:23:57This group, emily's list, has been doing a great job for women candidates for a long, long time.
00:24:07This project that they're going is going to send shivers up the spine of any man thinking of running for president.
00:24:13If you put emily's list behind a single woman -- >> I know those lines.
00:24:21>> Whether it's hillary clinton or amy klobuchar or kirsten gillibrand or any of the women thinking about running for president, if you can unite women behind that candidacy, it's almost unstoppable.
00:24:33>> Okay.
00:24:34Let's look at it.
00:24:35I like to visualize these things.
00:24:39We're on television.
00:24:40We're in iowa, probably this network, msnbc, one of the others, democratic party in this case, they'll probably hold a big debate, say, in 2013.
00:24:49I'm sorry, 2015.
00:24:51>> Yes.
00:24:52>> It may be early in 2015.
00:24:54You'll have a row of people there.
00:24:58I don't know -- I don't think al sharpton is running again.
00:24:59I don't know anybody else running again.
00:25:00It will probably be martin o'malley, governor of maryland.
00:25:02It may be the -- do you think the vice president -- this is where it gets interesting.
00:25:06If secretary clinton runs, do you think the vice president will take her on, or step aside and say, no, her time has come?
00:25:11>> I think we can't visualize that stage until we know what she's doing.
00:25:15I think just about everybody, male and female in the democratic party is waiting to see what happens.
00:25:22>> Are you pushing her to run?
00:25:23>> We would certainly love her to run.
00:25:25>> If you don't get her to run, who's your candidate for president?
00:25:27>> We have a strong bench that is just as good and viable as martin o'malleys and andrew cuomos.
00:25:32>> Who's your best -- >> klobuchar, gillibrand.
00:25:33>> The senator from minnesota, very popular in this city, and certainly gillibrand is really good.
00:25:36Very impressive.
00:25:37I'm not sure they have the name i.d. yet.
00:25:40>> Jess is right.
00:25:40Hillary clinton is about the great big eclipse blocking the sun and keeping everything from growing.
00:25:44>> In a positive way.
00:25:46>> In a positive way.
00:25:48She'll sit out there for a while because it suits her political or financial interests.
00:25:52She makes a lot of money giving these speeches.
00:25:54>> Tell the public that doesn't follow politics every three seconds like you do why she should stay out of the game for at least a year.
00:26:02>> First of all, she gets $200,000 per speech.
00:26:05Secondly, it keeps her name out there and at 65% in the polls.
00:26:07It freezes the field and gives -- >> as soon as she announce, all the republican out there who don't like her will say so.
00:26:11>> The longer she stays in if she doesn't run, the better it is for joe biden.
00:26:14She keeps andrew cuomo and others from getting out of the starting gate.
00:26:21>> I'm not relevant to your cause, but I think emily's list is great.
00:26:30I think it's going be a great campaign in 2016.
00:26:32I'll be covering it.
00:26:33I just found out I'll be here doing it.
00:26:36Let me tell you what else i think.
00:26:37I think it could be a positive thing for the democrats.
00:26:42Hillary clinton will be a notch or two to the right of this president.
00:26:53I think she'll find a good sweet spot there.
00:26:55Somewhere to the right on foreign policy.
00:26:58Little notch.
00:26:58Domestic policy, I'm not sure where she's going to be.
00:27:00There's going to be plenty of space on the spectrum for other people to run against her.
00:27:02Martin o'malley maybe.
00:27:03I think deval patrick would be a good candidate.
00:27:04There are a lot of -- perhaps another woman candidate.
00:27:05I think it will be fabulous.
00:27:06>> There's space but may not be courage.
00:27:07It takes courage.
00:27:07>> They're crazy not to run.
00:27:08If you run with hillary, you'll be on the same stage with a great person and you're going to look great.
00:27:11steve McMahon.
00:27:11jess McIntosh.
00:27:13Please come back.
00:27:15>>> Up next, you say you want a revolution.
00:27:16How about half the republicans think it may be coming?
00:27:22This is a scary number.
00:27:24I'm in a happy mood, now I'm not.
00:27:25A lot of people in this country think we're headed toward an actual revolution to protect our civil liberties like in 1776.
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00:30:46" now to the sideshow.
00:30:51Conspiracy edition.
00:30:51Mm.
00:30:54How do we know conspiracy theories are growing about the government?
00:31:02A survey asked people if they thought armed revolt might be necessary to protect civil liberties in this country.
00:31:10Buckle your seat belts on these answers.
00:31:1429% Said it might be necessary in this country.
00:31:15Break it down by party, 18% of democrats agreed armed revolt might be necessary to protect our civil liberties.
00:31:18But 44% of republicans said so.
00:31:20So that's 3-10 all together who say we may be headed for armed rebellion.
00:31:24Doing their part to help the conspiracy cause along, senator inhofe, of course, of the global warming is a hoax theory.
00:31:32His former republican oklahoma congressman frank lucas.
00:31:33According to inhofe, "president obama has been adamant about cushing law-abiding americans' access and opportunities to exercise their second amendment rights.
00:31:43One way the obama administration is able to do that," he says "is by limiting what's available in the market with federal agencies purchasing unnecessary stockpiles of ammunition.
00:31:51So as he say, inhofe, the government is out there secretly buying up all the bullets so there won't be any of those bullets out there in the stores for rest of us.
00:32:00Inhofe and lucas proposed a bill last week that would ban federal agencies from buying ammunition if their agency stockpile is larger than it was under the bush administration.
00:32:07Only the pentagon would be exempt.
00:32:09Well, they've got company here.
00:32:12Here's new hampshire senator, representative, state senator, actually state representative edmond gionet who had a question for republican senator kelly ayotte at a town hall meeting on tuesday.
00:32:24>> One of the things that concerns my constituent, the majority of my constituents, is that the appointments that are now being made in washington by our president and the way he's handling immigrants and nationalizing them and giving them the opportunity to vote and wanting to keep track of our guns.
00:32:57They're worried we have to use our own guns.
00:32:59Is there anything in washington that says, any telltale signs, we might be headed to a revolution given the fact these things are going on?
00:33:06That's what was said in the group I'm in.
00:33:09>> Sounds like the poll results we just gave you are at work in that guy's head.
00:33:12Serious by election.
00:33:14By the way, senator ayotte at the town meeting, running it, in fact, did not express concern in her answer about an armed revolt.
00:33:24Anyway.
00:33:26There's republican state senator trella tremblay who alerted her constituents to a video suggesting president obama was not born in the united states now says she's convinced the boston marathon attack was a hoax.
00:33:43Why?
00:33:44According to tremblay, one of the victims didn't seem to be in enough pain.
00:33:51>> My first gut reaction seeing the horror of that person that had their legs blown off, you know, with the bones sticking out -- >> yes, ma'am.
00:33:57>> And he was not in shock and i looked and I thought, there's something -- I don't know what's wrong, but it seems surreal to me.
00:34:08He was not in shock.
00:34:08He was not in pain.
00:34:13>> Again, tremblay, that state senator is an elected official of the state of new hampshire and credits extreme right wing conspiracy theorist alex jones.
00:34:21>>> Up next, the unkindest cut.
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00:37:50>>> hello shall everybody.
00:37:54Here's what's happening.
00:37:54President obama spoke with reporters after meeting with mexico's president.
00:37:57He says syria is proceeding with caution as it weighs its option.
00:38:06>>> The boston bombers planned to strike july 4th but finished the boston bomb making early.
00:38:16>>> Act killed himself in houston airport.
00:38:19No one else was injured.
00:38:22Now let's head back to " >>> we're challenged.
00:38:27Sequester is hurting.
00:38:28Sequester is hurting in a big, big way.
00:38:31We serve over a million meals a day.
00:38:34These aren't the people that can go out and shout in the streets and make sure that the folks up on capitol hill know what's going on.
00:38:40Now you're truly shut in.
00:38:40" last night way brought you chairman of the board of directors for the meals on wheels association of america to explain the toll, the across the board spending cuts known as sequester, some of america's most vulnerable people.
00:39:01Here's the director of the community oncology alliance talking about the effects of these arbitrary cuts on some cancer patients.
00:39:12>> I had spoke to another practice administrator in salt lake city.
00:39:16She has an 82-year-old patient, a lymphoma survivor who has to travel 62 miles.
00:39:18>> You already have cancer, now you have this.
00:39:19We've told you about some of the programs hurt by sequester huts.
00:39:21Special education and head start, of course.
00:39:22That's just a sampling.
00:39:24We're going to keep track, by the way, of those for whom these cuts are the unkindest of all.
00:39:27Usually the poor, elderly, dispre, of course.
00:39:36Affects people who use food pantries and soup kitchens.
00:39:40Joe berg is executive director of an umbrella soup for soup kitchens across the country and food pantries many of which are partially federally funded.
00:39:48Josh green for "bloomberg " gentlemen, thank you for joining us.
00:39:51Tell us what this sequestration which seems like a theory to a lot of people is doing to your work?
00:39:59>> It has eliminated our new york city vista americorps program.
00:40:08Americorps is a domestic peace corps that allows low income and middle-class kids to serve their nation and get a small educational award in exchange.
00:40:15We had 11 people placed in soup kitchens and food pantries in new york city and that has been eliminated by the sequestration.
00:40:23Also the sequestration cut $5 million out of the fema emergency food and shelter program.
00:40:30The main source of federal cash for soup kitchens, food pantry, food banks and homelessness prevention organizations around the country.
00:40:38That program was already slashed over the last three years and is is now 60% lets than in 2009.
00:40:41>> Of course the weather's getting a little better.
00:40:44It's not as bad in the shelter as in the harshness of winter.
00:40:49Anybody who watches homeless people in the winter can only feel for them when they get under the cardboard boxes and stuff.
00:41:01How many people have you had to turn people back for lunch or dinner, that kind of thing?
00:41:05>> The national cuts are going to take away at least a few million meals.
00:41:12Here in new york city because of the other cuts, 2/3 of the soup kitchens and food pantries in new york city already have to ration food.
00:41:24Turn people away.
00:41:27Reduce portions size.
00:41:29Reduce hours of operation.
00:41:31And this is a city that has 53 billionaires with combined net worth of $230 billion.
00:41:37We can certainly afford, as a city and as a nation, to fund these programs, but we're not.
00:41:40>> That's terrible.
00:41:40Let me go to josh green.
00:41:41Your view about this as a reporter.
00:41:42This is so far an unreported story.
00:41:45We're going to do our bid here, on the unkindness cut, a line from a speech of what happened to cesar.
00:41:52This is what happened to little people, not cesar.
00:41:57We're getting a lot of attention, we had a lot of talk about the fact the air traffic controllers had to get their money.
00:42:06That that was an exception.
00:42:07My question, it's a political question, why doesn't some smart liberal, or progressive, on the floor of the house, bring a bill to the floor that says why don't we bring back the meals on wheels program?
00:42:14Why don't we bring back the subsidies for food pantries.
00:42:17Then it jammed the -- even the conservative members into voting for it.
00:42:19>> I'm not sure it would jam the conservative members.
00:42:21If you look at some of the republican policies, especially in the house, they've wanted to cut exactly these social programs in order to pay for tax cuts.
00:42:31I think as a reporter the interesting story here, though, is it really throws into sharp relief the kind of lobbying power that certain organizations have like the aircraft owners and pilots association versus programs like head start and soup kitchens that don't have that kind of lobbying clout.
00:42:47You see the results in what's happened.
00:42:51>> Wl, let me go back to joel, then.
00:42:56Teach me something here.
00:42:58Fema.
00:43:00We think of fema to help in jersey and new york, helping families in terrible shape along the coast there.
00:43:10My sense is fema does that kind of work.
00:43:13I'm learning fema helps feed people who are generally hungry.
00:43:15>> There's a long-term disaster in america.
00:43:1750 Million americans now live in households that can't afford enough food.
00:43:23There's a grt ironcertain conservatives like representative peter king, when ere was a delay in sandy relief funding to his district, went ballistic rightfully so.
00:43:35That the aid was delayed and he said no one should two hungry, no one should lack rooover their head because of sandy.
00:43:39I just hope mo peoe in congress would understand that there's a long-term disaster that happens every day.
00:43:43You know, it seems these days congress is good at two things.
00:43:45Making their own lives easier.
00:43:46And making the lives of low-income people harder.
00:43:49>> How do you express that with poor people?
00:43:53Are you going to have rallies?
00:43:53Going to have people protest?
00:43:55How do you get to be -- my dad used to call it a squeaky wheel.
00:43:56Squeaky wheels, as we were just talking about here, get the grease.
00:43:59>> We need to rebuild the poor king did.
00:44:03>> Or abernathy, too.
00:44:04Ralph abernathy.
00:44:08>> Lots of them.
00:44:09They actually pressured richard nixon for the creation of the safety net which reduced hunger in america.
00:44:18We need to better organize the 50 million americans in these straits and convince middle class americans and others it's in their collective self-interest to reduce hunger in america because no superpower in the history of the world has remained a superpower, has remained economically competitive if they let tens of millions of their own residents go hungry.
00:44:37>> Let's thank jon stewart.
00:44:38He said the only food they care about is the food on the tray coming down the first class aisle.
00:44:42Thank you, joel berg.
00:44:43Thank you, josh green, coming back from great reporting there.
00:44:45>>> Up next, senator ted cruz for president?
00:44:47Some conservatives say he's a rock star and could be another barry goldwater.
00:44:50A lot of us like barry goldwater personally.
00:44:52I'm not sure this guy is quite as lovable, and certainly not cuddly.
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00:49:15>>> This is going to be add this to the list.
00:49:18Ted cruz to the list of republicans who may be considering running for president in 2016.
00:49:24Freshman tea party senator from texas is a rock star to some conservatives.
00:49:27He's outspoken, fearless.
00:49:28He doesn't shy away -- I buy all that.
00:49:35His snarky remarks just aren't aimed at his political opponents.
00:49:38Here he is criticizing members of his own republican party.
00:49:44>> Look, there are a lot of of people that don't like to be held accountable.
00:49:48Here was their argument.
00:49:50Listen, before you did this the politics of it were great.
00:49:53Demps were the bad guys and republicans the good guys.
00:49:56Now, we all look like a bunch of squishes.
00:50:02Alternative.
00:50:03You could just not be a bunch of squishes.
00:50:10>> One conservative says cruz could be another barry gold water.
00:50:12By the way, that's an insult to barry gold water and may fire up the base.
00:50:19Author of "what's the matter " it sounds like a high school word.
00:50:29And he did believe there was a wider argument for background checks, what a squish is.
00:50:37Why you're here, you're republican and know your stuff.
00:50:39Could the party veer that far over and go to somebody as tough as this guy?
00:50:45Hard mind?
00:50:45>> It could.
00:50:47He's got the conservative base tied up.
00:50:49I believe it could go to a governor, because the mess in washington is nothing to run on.
00:50:56I remember when people were talking about mark sanford running for president.
00:51:01Not so sure about ted cruz.
00:51:03>> What about the political spectrum, I think hillary will run a notch or two to the right of president obama.
00:51:09I think that's the sweet spot.
00:51:12I think it is.
00:51:13Will your guy be to the right or left of mitt romney?
00:51:17I say to the right.
00:51:18>> Heal be to the right of mitt romney but not ted cruz somewhere in the middle.
00:51:24Chris christie could get the nomination.
00:51:26>> He wouldn't be to the right.
00:51:27>> He would win it because he would be the best candidate.
00:51:30He could possibly beat her.
00:51:33>> That doesn't win republican primaries.
00:51:35I really don't think chris christie will scratch the itch that needs to be scratched.
00:51:41Ted cruz does it.
00:51:42If there are several tea party candidates and there's rubio and rand paul, my friend, and ted cruz, maybe a christie or pence has a chance.
00:51:57If they get start and decide only one will run, cruz could be formidable.
00:52:02>> You lost one you thought you could win.
00:52:04I thought you could win.
00:52:05I thought it would be much closer.
00:52:08It looked like a hell of an election coming up on the first debate and then didn't work because of the demographic changes, more young people and latinos and more voted that made it haerther for your party.
00:52:25What's your reaction when you get smacked, go hard right or the middle?
00:52:31>> I think it depends what's the big issue of the moment.
00:52:34I do think that this party is going to want to win because they're not going to want to have hillary clinton win.
00:52:40>> I think this looks too nasty.
00:52:43I think in the end politicians of any party fit a simple mode.
00:52:49Bill clinton, likable.
00:52:51Barack obama, no matter what they say, like the family.
00:52:55Cruz looks so tough.
00:52:56>> Looks really tough.
00:52:57Can you imagine him debating hillary.
00:53:01Democrats would be celebrating from the beginning.
00:53:03The real thing, if marco rubio has really been damaged pushing for immigration reform when your party needs latin no voters, that's a certainly sign for 2016.
00:53:16>> The thing going on with pat toomey and marco rubio, they all found that issue to tack to the middle.
00:53:24Ted cruz hasn't found that issue, does he want to or follow IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF jim DeMint and end up at the heritage foundation.
00:53:34>> Maybe want to be the next santorum, follow to the right but own it.
00:53:40>> What rick santorum did was move to the center and lost and then tacked far to the right.
00:53:46>> Hillary clinton, I'm not her speechwriter, she will go after the worst in your party.
00:53:50She won't debate the guy running against her, she'll debate the worst elemes in your party.
00:53:58>> We have gender gap problem.
00:54:00We have an hispanic problem.
00:54:02We have to have somebody that expands the base.
00:54:04>> What would you say the woman not your age, my age, said it's about time to have a woman president.
00:54:10How do you fight that argument if she's obviously qualified?
00:54:13>> It's a tough one.
00:54:15You have to find t women -- there will be a woman who will vote purely on it.
00:54:21You have to make it a competence issue.
00:54:23>> Competence issue.
00:54:24>> I think hillary is a tough candidate for us.
00:54:27We'll see.
00:54:28I'm not going to predict that.
00:54:29I don't think she's going to get the nomination and I don't think she's going to run.
00:54:33>> You don't think she's going to run.
00:54:35>> It's possible.
00:54:36>> Let me put it this way, i hope she won't run.
00:54:39I think she will play it safe for now and not make too much noise and wait it out.
00:54:46Joe biden has to wait for her.
00:54:48That won't be too much fun waiting.
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00:58:42>>> Let me finish w this.
00:58:45The polls show hillary clinton is the run away favorite for candidate for president.
00:58:52She has been strong president obama and she's been even stronger playing the role as bill clinton's counselor and knows very well what it's like to be president and when things are going well but not going so well.
00:59:06A word to those thinking of running against her.
00:59:09Do it.
00:59:09Get out there, make your case, make it positively, heroically, proudly.
00:59:14Let people you know what you believe, what you think you're good at if you do get elected.
00:59:20Everything I know about politics is the uncanny move is the brilliant one.
00:59:25Put yourself in a place you can't lose because no one expects you to win.
00:59:29You beat the spread by jumping in the first place.
00:59:32I'm speaking to martin o'malley and any else contemplating a run.
00:59:37You never know.
00:59:39The sidelines is nowhere to stand if you want to know what your chances are.
00:00:01>>> Good evening.
00:00:06I'm chris matthews in washington.
00:00:09Let me start tonight with this.
00:00:10Imagine being a member of a political party whose only initiative, whose only recent mission, whose only active purpose these days is to find ways to keep member of the other party, blacks, young people, the elderly, from voting?
00:00:20And oh yeah, keeping the president of the united states from getting anything done.
00:00:23Meet the republican party of mitch McConnell, john boehner, and, yes, reince priebus.
00:00:28Look at its agenda on gun safety.
00:00:30Do nothing, or should I say nutin' at all?
00:00:33Or should I say, nothing at all.
00:00:37Leave it the way it is.
00:00:39Getting bargain basement wages for people who businesses can make a lot of money?
00:00:47Keep it up.
00:00:49Government deficits in to deal.
00:00:50Cut meals on wheels, cut the soup kitchens, while as jon stewart puts it, keeping the food cart moving on first class.
00:00:53Welcome to the plan.
00:00:55Stop people from voting on the democratic side.
00:01:01President from doing his elected job.
00:01:02Is this why people go into politics?
00:01:03Is it about doing nothing?
00:01:05Is nothing sacred?
00:01:07Michael steele was chairman of the republican party back when it made sense.
00:01:12Eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize winning columnist from the " anyway, senator pat toomey co-authored the compromise on background checks.
00:01:18We like him for that.
00:01:20On guns.
00:01:21This week he said the reason it failed had to do with republican opposition to the president.
00:01:28Let's listen to the senator from pennsylvania.
00:01:30>> I thought that we had settled on a really common sense approach that ought to be able to achieve a consensus.
00:01:37I think in the end we didn't because our politics have become so polarized.
00:01:42And there are people on my side meeting.
00:02:03He said he was referring to republicans across the nation, not just across the aisle in the senate.
00:02:07"The new york times'" reporter write, what toomey was reserving to there goes deeper and wider than gun safety.
00:02:15"Republicans are clearly looking to do more than deprive mr.
00:02:18Obama victories.
00:02:18However.
00:02:20The ultimate goal is to make him appear powerless and weak, a flailing figure unable to affect the midterm elections or give the next democratic nominee a boost.
00:02:30Taking heat on a gun vote is worth it if it leads to a reporter asking the president whether he has any juice left with congress as one did yesterday and leads to a bigger payoff if the president stumbles in his response, forced to assert rumors of his demise are " michael steele, has the republican party adapted?
00:02:48We don't want nothing done, we don't want this guy to get anything done.
00:02:53That's our primary purpose.
00:02:55>> I think the latter of that is certainly true.
00:02:58It goes back to mitch McCONNELL'S OPENING SALVO ON THE Night of the inauguration where they got together and said, you know, one-term president.
00:03:08So, yeah, I think that's the political operative or operation of this whole thing.
00:03:13>> Is that a party-building move for your side?
00:03:14>> I don't think it's a party-building move.
00:03:16As chairman, one thing I always wanted to do was contrast what we philosophically believed, what our principles were against the policies and the direction that the president wanted to take the country.
00:03:26That, I think, is a fair debate to have.
00:03:30And people of, you know, all stripes can agree or disagree.
00:03:33But when you just do the political, without some level of work, I mean, gingrich and clinton worked it out.
00:03:42They got some good things done.
00:03:43Reagan and tip o'neill fought like cats and dogs on policy, but they found a way to work it out.
00:03:52This kind of stalemate is not good.
00:03:55The people in the country don't want it.
00:03:58I think the party long term could hurt itself with a lot of voters.
00:04:02>> I want to get back to that.
00:04:04I think the republican party has a two-strike goal.
00:04:06Reduce the electoral.
00:04:07Tactical, maybe strategic.
00:04:08Then other part of it is, don't let this president be a hero to anybody.
00:04:09>> Well, it's not working, though.
00:04:11>> Isn't it?
00:04:13I'm wondering.
00:04:15>> But the voter suppression didn't work.
00:04:18They tried to limit the vote -- >> and the courts came in.
00:04:21Yeah.
00:04:22>> But they voted in larger numbers.
00:04:25>> Yeah.
00:04:26>> The the black turnout was higher than white turnout in this last election.
00:04:28So -- >> of course, republican courts, too.
00:04:30>> Absolutely.
00:04:30Because gene, the law is the law.
00:04:31You know?
00:04:32And the constitution is the constitution.
00:04:35So that didn't work.
00:04:36And the idea of making him not a hero to anybody, I don't think that works either.
00:04:41Now, it kind of depends on how president obama reacts, but when you're president of the united states, you do have juice.
00:04:48There is stuff you can do.
00:04:49>> Was it an odd question?
00:04:49>> It was a very odd question.
00:04:50>> It seemed like a -- it reminded me of o.j.
00:04:55Electricity juice.
00:04:56What kind of juice are we talking about?
00:04:59Political juice, clout, muscle?
00:05:01>> I think it was also an appropriate question.
00:05:04I mean, look, the bottom line is the president has seeded a lot of ground.
00:05:09>> Let's start on that.
00:05:10Let's take the three big issue.
00:05:11Did the president blow it on guns or did the other side basically put up a big wall and say we're not giving you nothing?
00:05:18>> I think he blew it on guns.
00:05:19I think the speech he gave after he was defeated in the senate vote was a speech he should have given the very next day after sandy hook to make sure the line was very clear.
00:05:27As you talked about on this show many times, johnson made it very clear, we're going to get something done, we got to get it done on guns or, you know -- >> civil rights back in '64.
00:05:37>> There is a timing -- I think that's a fair shot, although it's looking backwards.
00:05:42Let's talk about this issue of immigration which is, to me, the big gold star for this guy.
00:05:45If he doesn't get immigration in the next three years, he has not had a successful legislative term here.
00:05:52My question is, are the people like ted cruz out to basically stifle any bill?
00:05:57>> Oh, I think so.
00:05:57They're going to try -- >> any bill.
00:06:00>> I think -- you know, immigration is difficult because it's so clearly in the interest of republican party.
00:06:06>> To get the -- >> to get -- >> it off their back.
00:06:11>> Get it off their back.
00:06:13And so there's going to be a lot of pushback from the republican establishment that says, wait a minute, we need to do this.
00:06:19However, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to get through.
00:06:24That dynamic -- >> they still have -- you know, I think I like your parallel to tip and reagan because there's one parallel clear there.
00:06:32The reason republicans agree to social security reform in '83, they kept getting beat on it.
00:06:34>> I'm not sure how much president obama can intervene in the battles inside the republican party.
00:06:41What he can do is use executive powers, bully pulpit and veto pen -- >> let's talk about the constitution we all grew up.
00:06:51We're about the same age.
00:06:53I was telling this to our producers today, younger than me, a lot of them.
00:06:55The constitution doesn't guarantee the united states senate represents the american people.
00:07:00It represents the states.
00:07:01If you look at a map of the united states, most of the map physically is republican and conservative.
00:07:06It's rural.
00:07:08It's vast spaces in the south.
00:07:10And especially in the rocky mountain west.
00:07:12>> Yep.
00:07:15>> All that space is represented in many cases by republican senators.
00:07:19>> Right.
00:07:19>> Who are pro gun.
00:07:20>> Right.
00:07:20>> When you go to have a vote, 90% of the country wants background checks expanded.
00:07:22The senate goes the other direction.
00:07:23You go, whoa, it could be because the senate is representing land.
00:07:27You're laughing.
00:07:29The people out there in big cities go, what happened to my vote?
00:07:34My vote doesn't count as much as the guy living in utah.
00:07:37Senators of new york and california represent aut 20% of the country I think and 4 senators out of 100.
00:07:43A guy from utah, you may not know the guy from utah, the second one, you probably do.
00:07:48He has as much clout as gillibrand in new york.
00:07:52>> That's a dynamic people underestimated doing into the fight, why from the very beginning on this show I took note of what harry reid said on the whole start of this gun debate.
00:08:03He pretty much said, we'll take a look.
00:08:09Basically we're going to slow this down because he understood the very principle you just identified that the vote doesn't line up with necessarily the sentiment.
00:08:13>> Let's take a look at this.
00:08:14Republican national committee has a new ad out there.
00:08:17It's a web ad.
00:08:17These are the cheap ones they don't spend much money on.
00:08:20We, of course, cover them.
00:08:21They're practically gloating.
00:08:22This has priebus' name all over it, or his nature.
00:08:27>> Only 100 days into his second term, already faced a string of defeats in congress.
00:08:31>> Do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this congress?
00:08:38>> Put it that way, jonathan, maybe I should just pack up and go home.
00:08:42>> The gun bill failed.
00:08:44The sequester appears here to stay, and immigration reform is still a glimmer of hope largely because the president has stayed out of it.
00:08:55>> Maybe I should just pack up and go home.
00:09:00>> I don't know who was the first guy or woman to make that ad.
00:09:05The guy's not really standing up street.
00:09:09He's on a not diagonal.
00:09:11The music is strange.
00:09:13The voice, sarcastic.
00:09:13>> That's politics.
00:09:15>> Politics, where does it take you in the end?
00:09:19Barack obama's not running for anything.
00:09:23He's not going to run for anything.
00:09:26There are things he wants to do for -- >> gene, you and I agree on a lot of things.
00:09:28He wants it in the history books.
00:09:31He wants unemployment rate to go down.
00:09:34He wants it in the history books.
00:09:40How does he get in the history books if the republicans stymie him?
00:09:44Maybe he can get past the gun thing.
00:09:45Immigration is his baby.
00:09:45If they say no, if people like ted cruz and mike lee of utah, the junior senator out there, people like rand paul blow it, they say 60 votes or nothing, they keep from getting the 60, he'll never get in the house and nothing's going to happen.
00:09:54Gene, who wins then?
00:09:55>> Well -- >> gene?
00:09:58>> Well, then he doesn't get the bill.
00:10:00>> So the scorched earth policy works.
00:10:02So the negativity the republican party gets what it wants, a noncreative president.
00:10:07>> Does the president get to determine what the house and what the senate do?
00:10:11No.
00:10:13He doesn't get -- >> the public expects it.
00:10:14>> The public holds the president responsible.
00:10:16I think he should throw some elbows.
00:10:21>> Didn't he say, in a pretty rough elbow there, in basketball terms in the press conference?
00:10:32>> I think members of the senate and the house should feel they have to pay for these if they're going to vote against him.
00:10:37I don't think taking him to dinner or lunch is going to solve it.
00:10:43>> The only people who are getting hurt are the people who don't like kelly ayotte this week.
00:10:45People like heidi heitkamp in north dakota, they're doing swimmingly who voted against the -- >> he's got the ultimate tool, chris, it's called that bully pulpit.
00:10:56He's used it ineffectively.
00:10:57>> The latest "new york times"/cbs poll.
00:11:07Voters in general and republicans specifically overwhelmingly back the president's position on background checks for gun purchases.
00:11:19And his role, position on path to citizenship under immigration reform.
00:11:22Take a look at this.
00:11:2286% Of republicans say there should be stronger background checks.
00:11:28This is republicans.
00:11:2984% Say there should be a path to citizenship.
00:11:32Offer for illegal immigrants.
00:11:33Despite the overwhelming support for these issues that obama agrees with, the country is deeply divided over who they trust on the issues of gun and immigration.
00:11:43Catch this.
00:11:45You'll like this, michael.
00:11:46Republicans in congress, I have to say, have a slight edge when it comes to guns.
00:11:48President has a slight end on immigration.
00:11:53On the topics of guns and immigration, look at what congressman jack kingston, smart guy from georgia, told "the new york times" about what backing he gets back home.
00:11:59"There was a lot of washington talk about the gun bills possibilities but I never saw that reflected in the people at home.
00:12:06Now there's all this buzz about the immigration reform.
00:12:08And that is not reflected, " gene, all this -- these big polls ect popular opinion including a lot of votes in the big cities and the suburbs.
00:12:19You get out into rural areas in this country, which is a lot of this country, conservative views on guns and immigration.
00:12:28>> That's true.
00:12:29But those numbers are not insignificant.
00:12:30If you've got 86% who say they favor something -- >> it should include the rural areas.
00:12:33>> By nature, you're using the bully pulpit pretty well, right?
00:12:39Because he's got public opinion on his side, on these issues.
00:12:40Now, maybe there's some level of trust of confidence reflected in that second group of figures where it's much closer.
00:12:47Maybe there's something else he needs to do.
00:12:53I'm not quite sure what that is.
00:12:54You get 86%.
00:12:56You figure you won the issue.
00:12:57>> I have to go something so primitive, people wonder if I'm serious.
00:13:00I've always wondered whether people tell the pollsters what they want to hear.
00:13:07>> Yes, they do.
00:13:10>> Somebody with a perfect -- do you give people what they think they want to hear?
00:13:16Of course I'm for gun safety.
00:13:17Are you for background checks for people who are criminally insane?
00:13:22>> People don't know who -- >> would conservatives from your party cover up their -- >> not just on the conservative side but I think even on the liberal side on issues like gay marriage and abortion.
00:13:33I think you find -- >> are you sure?
00:13:36I think liberals are more -- >> my e-mail doesn't count because -- >> no, your e-mail will count.
00:13:44I'm juaying looking at -- i don't take a one for one correlation between what I see in a popular poll and then hue that's going to translate -- >> I'm trying to figure out why this country isn't getting reflected in congress.
00:13:54The only way to explain it is problems with the polling which you can always talk about.
00:13:59It's this visceral thing.
00:14:01Mostly the guy, the white guy, mostly, who's gun absorbed.
00:14:06Let's be honest about it.
00:14:09Absorbed without putting a negative on it.
00:14:10Really believes in the second amendment.
00:14:15Cares deeply about it and is going to remember every one of these voting opportunities.
00:14:20He's going to take that position.
00:14:21On immigration, arle ethnically conservative?
00:14:24It's not that they're racist or anything.
00:14:25They want the things the way they were.
00:14:28Are they less likely to give up a fight?
00:14:30Got to go.
00:14:30Thank you, gentlemen.
00:14:31Michael steele.
00:14:31Thank you, gene robinson.
00:14:34>>> The group emily's list says the nation is ready for a woman president and have begun their campaign to put a wohe white house.
00:14:42Wonder who they're thinking about.
00:14:46>>> Our new "hardball" feature comes on tonight, the unkindest cut.
00:14:50Remember shakespeare?
00:14:51Republicans like to say president obama is exaggerating the pain from the sequester cuts, but let's see about that.
00:14:57Let's ask the people who run soup kitchens, for example, and food pantries in this country.
00:14:59See how they're doing on these cuts.
00:15:01We will tonight.
00:15:03>>> Remember how republicans said they had to change after the 2012 elections?
00:15:09Then explain why the rising star of the gop right now is someone who wants things even further to the right.
00:15:12Republicans have.
00:15:13The republican in this case is ted cruz.
00:15:15He could be the next barry goldwater, he says.
00:15:16Actually I sort of like goldwater.
00:15:17This guy doesn't seem quite as nice.
00:15:21>>> Finally leave it to the global warming is a hoax governor.
00:15:27Who says the government is out there buying the bullets in country so the rest of us are being denied our gun rights.
00:15:30Paranoia, you think?
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00:16:41>>> Well, we've seen a lot of polling that suggests senators who voted against background checks are suffering in public opinion polls.
00:16:47Today evidence that two red state democrats up for re-election next year actually helped themselves by voting yes on expanded background checks.
00:16:55Look at this.
00:16:57According to a new ppp poll, 45% of louisiana voters say they're more likely to vote for senator mary landrieu because she voted for background checks versus just a quarter of the voters who say they're less likely.
00:17:08In north carolina, women are more likely to vote for senator kay hagan because of her vote.
00:17:13Again, only a quarter said they're less likely to support her.
00:17:17They're looking in good shape.
00:17:18The poll found three quarters of voters in both states say they favor background checks.
00:17:21We'll be right back.
00:19:29" with every public appearance it seems the buzz about hillary clinton in 2016 grows louder.
00:19:36Last night I was there when secretary clinton received and award from the atlanta council here in washington.
00:19:40Former secretary of state henry kissinger was there to introduce her and did a good job.
00:19:43Here he is.
00:19:45>> At least four secretaries of state became presidents, and that sort of started focusing my mind.
00:20:04I want to tell hillary when she misses the office, she looks at the history of secretary of state, it might be hope for a fulfilling life afterwards.
00:20:19>> Here was secretary clinton responding.
00:20:20>> When I became secretary of state, I spent a lot of time thinking about my illustrious predecessors and not primarily the ones who went on to become president.
00:20:34>> Well, they may be kidding about the obvious last night.
00:20:35Everybody knows who was in the room, the polling out there of how serious hillary talk is.
00:20:38I guess maybe franklin roosevelt in '32 had these numbers or ike in '52.
00:20:42Look at these numbers.
00:20:43Write them down.
00:20:4665% Support her for president.
00:20:56That number goes with both women.
00:20:57Men are one point more for it than women, actually.
00:20:58Joe biden is the only candidate in the world with double digits.
00:21:00He's way behind her.
00:21:00Andrew cuomo.
00:21:02O'malley, the governor of maryland.
00:21:06Barely get into the money here.
00:21:06How is this for an interesting piece of news?
00:21:08It was just announced this afternoon hillary clinton and new jersey governor chris christie will be featured attractions at an event for the global clinton initiative in chicago next month.
00:21:20The stated focus will, be, quote, speeding up the united states' economic recovery and nation's long-term outlook.
00:21:28The sub text, of course, 2016.
00:21:29steve McMahon is the democratic strategist, of course, we all love.
00:21:32AND jess McIntosh is spokesperson for emily's list, working to get women elected.
00:21:35To get women elected president of the united states.
00:21:40Jess, thank you for coming here " lay it out.
00:21:50Emily's list.
00:21:55Wonder what you're thinking about.
00:21:59>> Thanks for having me.
00:22:00We launched the madam president campaign today.
00:22:01Supports progressive women.
00:22:022012 Was a mandate for women's leadership.
00:22:03So with our mission, we expanded -- >> I'm sorry.
00:22:04What do you mean by that?
00:22:05>> We elect pro-choice democratic women.
00:22:06>> What happened in 2012?
00:22:07What was the mandate?
00:22:07>> We elected a historic number of democratic women to congress and emily list's quintupled its membership.
00:22:10There's so much enthusiasm around putting women in leadership positions.
00:22:15We -- >> how many members do you have?
00:22:22>> Over 2 million now.
00:22:23>> Wow.
00:22:23>> We ended the -- >> who's paying?
00:22:24>> Taking action with us.
00:22:25They're sharing, signing petitions.
00:22:26>> Is there ever in the history of this country been a group like this?
00:22:28>> As far as we know we're the only ones committed to putting women in office.
00:22:33We think that's how we're to build a more progressive america.
00:22:41>> Is there a group for men like that?
00:22:42>> 250 Years to build that network.
00:22:43We're catching up.
00:22:43>> I give you the setup there.
00:22:44Steve, this is fascinating.
00:22:47You're a political expert here.
00:22:48Actually I did point out the oddity perfect that more men, one more percent, are for hillary.
00:22:53At least men have one other candidate in mind besides biden, they have cuomo in mind.
00:23:02Women only have in mind the vice president or hillary clinton.
00:23:06Overwhelmingly the former secretary of state.
00:23:07>> Yeah, if you look at this as a phenomena, it's the first time really it's happened.
00:23:09You have women candidates who have gotten a disproportionate share of women voters then men lag behind.
00:23:11>> California, isn't it 60% of the democratic voters are women?
00:23:13>> It's about 58%.
00:23:15>> Yeah, women have been deciding our elections for cycles, fodecades.
00:23:20So it's about time we gave them strong women to vote for.
00:23:24They came out, we had a historic gender gap last cycle in 2012.
00:23:26I think we've seen republicans move farther and farther to the right alienating the women voters they need to win.
00:23:32They show no signs of having learned from those mistakes.
00:23:34And so we're expecting 2014 is going to be a good cycle.
00:23:36>> In a normal general election, 53% of the electorate are women.
00:23:42Women decide elections every single day.
00:23:47This group, emily's list, has been doing a great job for women candidates for a long, long time.
00:24:00This project that they're going is going to send shivers up the spine of any man thinking of running for president.
00:24:03If you put emily's list behind a single woman -- >> I know those lines.
00:24:05>> Whether it's hillary clinton or amy klobuchar or kirsten gillibrand or any of the women thinking about running for president, if you can unite women behind that candidacy, it's almost unstoppable.
00:24:17>> Okay.
00:24:19Let's look at it.
00:24:24I like to visualize these things.
00:24:25We're on television.
00:24:26We're in iowa, probably this network, msnbc, one of the others, democratic party in this case, they'll probably hold a big debate, say, in 2013.
00:24:30I'm sorry, 2015.
00:24:31>> Yes.
00:24:34>> It may be early in 2015.
00:24:38You'll have a row of people there.
00:24:45I don't know -- I don't think al sharpton is running again.
00:24:48I don't know anybody else running again.
00:24:52It will probably be martin o'malley, governor of maryland.
00:24:53It may be the -- do you think the vice president -- this is where it gets interesting.
00:24:55If secretary clinton runs, do you think the vice president will take her on, or step aside and say, no, her time has come?
00:24:58>> I think we can't visualize that stage until we know what she's doing.
00:25:00I think just about everybody, male and female in the democratic party is waiting to see what happens.
00:25:02>> Are you pushing her to run?
00:25:03>> We would certainly love her to run.
00:25:04>> If you don't get her to run, who's your candidate for president?
00:25:06>> We have a strong bench that is just as good and viable as martin o'malleys and andrew cuomos.
00:25:12>> Who's your best -- >> klobuchar, gillibrand.
00:25:17>> The senator from minnesota, very popular in this city, and certainly gillibrand is really good.
00:25:27Very impressive.
00:25:32I'm not sure they have the name i.d. yet.
00:25:36>> Jess is right.
00:25:39Hillary clinton is about the great big eclipse blocking the sun ankeeping everything from growing.
00:25:46>> In a positive way.
00:25:46>> In a positive way.
00:25:47She'll sit out there for a while because it suits her political or financial interests.
00:25:49She makes a lot of money giving these speeches.
00:25:50>> Tell the public that doesn't follow politics every three seconds like you do why she should stay out of the game for at least a year.
00:25:54>> First of all, she gets $200,000 per speech.
00:25:55Secondly, it keeps her name out there and at 65% in the polls.
00:25:56It freezes the field and gives -- >> The longer she stays in if she doesn't run, the better it is for joe biden.
00:26:16She keeps andrew cuomo and others from getting out of the starting gate.
00:26:20>> I'm not relevant to your cause, but I think emily's list is great.
00:26:22I think it's going be a great campaign in 2016.
00:26:24I'll be covering it.
00:26:25I just found out I'll be here doing it.
00:26:28Let me tell you what else i think.
00:26:29I think it could be a positive thing for the democrats.
00:26:31Hillary clinton will be a notch or two to the right of this president.
00:26:34I think she'll find a good sweet spot there.
00:26:36Somewhere to the right on foreign policy.
00:26:41Little notch.
00:26:41Domestic policy, I'm not sure where she's going to be.
00:26:42There's going to be plenty of space on the spectrum for other people to run against her.
00:26:51Martin o'malley maybe.
00:26:52I think deval patrick would be a good candidate.
00:26:53There are a lot of -- perhaps another woman candidate.
00:26:54I think it will be fabulous.
00:26:55>> There's space but may not be courage.
00:26:56It takes courage.
00:26:58>> They're crazy not to run.
00:26:59If you run with hillary, you'll be on the same stage with a great person and you're going to look great.
00:27:02steve McMahon.
00:27:06jess McIntosh.
00:27:07Please come back.
00:27:07>>> Up next, you say you want a revolution.
00:27:08How about half the republicans think it may be coming?
00:27:11This is a scary number.
00:27:12I'm in a happy mood, now I'm not.
00:27:13A lot of people in this country think we're headed toward an actual revolution to protect our civil liberties like in 1776.
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00:30:36>>> Ha!
00:30:38" now to the sideshow.
00:30:42Conspiracy edition.
00:30:43Mm.
00:30:44How do we know conspiracy theories are growing about the government?
00:30:49A survey asked people if they thought armed revolt might be necessary to protect civil liberties in this country.
00:30:55Buckle your seat belts on these answers.
00:30:5829% Said it might be necessary in this country.
00:31:04Break it down by party, 18% of democrats agreed armed revolt might be necessary to protect our civil liberties.
00:31:09But 44% of republicans said so.
00:31:10So that's 3-10 all together who say we may be headed for armed rebellion.
00:31:15Doing their part to help the conspiracy cause along, senator inhofe, of course, of the global warming is a hoax theory.
00:31:24His former republican oklahoma congressman frank lucas.
00:31:28According to inhofe, "president obama has been adamant about cushing law-abiding americans' access and opportunities to exercise their second amendment rights.
00:31:36One way the obama administration is able to do that," he says "is by limiting what's available in the market with federal agencies purchasing unnecessary stockpiles of ammunition.
00:31:47So as he say, inhofe, the government is out there secretly buying up all the bullets so there won't be any of those bullets out there in the stores for rest of us.
00:31:56Inhofe and lucas proposed a bill last week that would ban federal agencies from buying ammunition if their agency stockpile is larger than it was under the bush administration.
00:32:05Only the pentagon would be exempt.
00:32:08Well, they've got company here.
00:32:10Here's new hampshire senator, representative, state senator, actually state representative edmond gionet who had a question for republican senator kelly ayotte at a town hall meeting on tuesday.
00:32:21>> One of the things that concerns my constituent, the majority of my constituents, is that the appointments that are now being made in washington by our president and the way he's handling immigrants and nationalizing them and giving them the opportunity to vote and wanting to keep track of our guns.
00:32:43They're worried we have to use our own guns.
00:32:48Is there anything in washington that says, any telltale signs, we might be headed to a revolution given the fact these things are going on?
00:32:58That's what was said in the group I'm in.
00:33:02>> Sounds like the poll results we just gave you are at work in that guy's head.
00:33:06Serious by election.
00:33:09By the way, senator ayotte at the town meeting, running it, in fact, did not express concern in her answer about an armed revolt.
00:33:16Anyway.
00:33:21There's republican state senator trella tremblay who alerted her constituents to a video suggesting president obama was not born in the united states now says she's convinced the boston marathon attack was a hoax.
00:33:32Why?
00:33:34According to tremblay, one of the victims didn't seem to be in enough pain.
00:33:39>> My first gut reaction seeing the horror of that person that had their legs blown off, you know, with the bones sticking out -- >> yes, ma'am.
00:33:49>> And he was not in shock and i looked and I thought, there's something -- I don't know what's wrong, but it seems surreal to me.
00:33:56He was not in shock.
00:33:57He was not in pain.
00:34:02>> Again, tremblay, that state senator is an elected official of the state of new hampshire and credits extreme right wing conspiracy theorist alex jones.
00:34:11>>> Up next, the unkindest cut.
00:34:14How those automatic across the board spending cuts are hurting the most vulnerable people in the country while congress steps in to help people who hardly need it.
00:34:21" the place for politics.
00:38:14>>> We're challenged.
00:38:17Sequester is hurting.
00:38:20Sequester is hurting in a big, big way.
00:38:26We serve over a million meals a day.
00:38:27These aren't the people that can go out and shout in the streets and make sure that the folks up on capitol hill know what's going on.
00:38:30Now you're truly shut in.
00:38:31" last night way brought you chairman of the board of directors for the meals on wheels association of america to explain the toll, the across the board spending cuts known as sequester, some of america's most vulnerable people.
00:38:43Here's the director of the community oncology alliance talking about the effects of these arbitrary cuts on some cancer patients.
00:38:50>> I had spoke to another practice administrator in salt lake city.
00:38:51She has an 82-year-old patient, a lymphoma survivor who has to travel 62 miles.
00:39:02>> You already have cancer, now you have this.
00:39:05We've told you about some of the programs hurt by sequester huts.
00:39:07Special education and head start, of course.
00:39:08That's just a sampling.
00:39:09We're going to keep track, by the way, of those for whom these cuts are the unkindest of all.
00:39:11Usually the poor, elderly, disabled and disenfranchised generally.
00:39:26We're going to call it the unkindest cut from shakespeare, of course.
00:39:28Affects people who use food pantries and soup kitchens.
00:39:36Joe berg is executive director of an umbrella soup for soup kitchens across the country and food pantries many of which are partially federally funded.
00:39:48Josh green for "bloomberg " gentlemen, thank you for joining us.
00:39:51Tell us what this sequestration which seems like a theory to a lot of people is doing to your work?
00:39:56>> It has eliminated our new york city vista americorps program.
00:40:04Americorps is a domestic peace corps that allows low income and middle-class kids to serve their nation and get a small educational award in exchange.
00:40:11We had 11 people placed in soup kitchens and food pantries in new york city and that has been eliminated by the sequestration.
00:40:15Also the sequestration cut $5 million out of the fema emergency food and shelter program.
00:40:24The main source of federal cash for soup kitchens, food pantry, food banks and homelessness prevention organizations around the country.
00:40:31That program was already slashed over the last three years and is is now 60% lets than in 2009.
00:40:36>> Of course the weather's getting a little better.
00:40:39It's not as bad in the shelter as in the harshness of winter.
00:40:42Anybody who watches homeless people in the winter can only feel for them when they get under the cardboard boxes and stuff.
00:40:53How many people have you had to turn people back for lunch or dinner, that kind of thing?
00:40:58>> The national cuts are going to take away at least a few million meals.
00:41:02Here in new york city because of the other cuts, 2/3 of the soup kitchens and food pantries in new york city already have to ration food.
00:41:11Turn people away.
00:41:12Reduce portions size.
00:41:14Reduce hours of operation.
00:41:15And this is a city that has 53 billionaires with combined net worth of $230 billion.
00:41:22We can certainly afford, as a city and as a nation, to fund these programs, but we're not.
00:41:26>> That's terrible.
00:41:28Let me go to josh green.
00:41:29Your view about this as a reporter.
00:41:31This is so far an unreported story.
00:41:33We're going to do our bid here, on the unkindness cut, a line from a speech of what happened to cesar.
00:41:39This is what happened to little people, not cesar.
00:41:45We're getting a lot of attention, we had a lot of talk about the fact the air traffic controllers had to get their money.
00:41:51That that was an exception.
00:41:52My question, it's a political question, why doesn't some smart liberal, or progressive, on the floor of the house, bring a bill to the floor that says why don't we bring back the meals on wheels program?
00:42:04Why don't we bring back the subsidies for food pantries.
00:42:06Then it jammed the -- even the conservative members into voting for it.
00:42:10>> I'm not sure it would jam the conservative members.
00:42:13If you look at some of the republican policies, especially in the house, they've wanted to cut exactly these social programs in order to pay for tax cuts.
00:42:19I think as a reporter the interesting story here, though, is it really throws into sharp relief the kind of lobbying power that certain organizations have like the aircraft owners and pilots association versus programs like head start and soup kitchens that don't have that kind of lobbying clout.
00:42:37You see the results in what's happened.
00:42:40>> Well, let me go back to joel, then.
00:42:42Teach me something here.
00:42:43Fema.
00:42:46We think of fema to help in jersey and new york, helping families in terrible shape along the coast there.
00:42:52My sense is fema does that kind of work.
00:42:54I'm learning fema helps feed people who are generally hungry.
00:42:57>> There's a long-term disaster in america.
00:43:0150 Million americans now live in households that can't afford enough food.
00:43:06There's a great irony certain conservatives like representative peter king, when there was a delay in sandy relief funding to his district, went ballistic rightfully so.
00:43:16That the aid was delayed and he said no one should two hungry, no one should lack a roof over their head because of sandy.
00:43:23I just hope more people in congress would understand that there's a long-term disaster that happens every day.
00:43:31You know, it seems these days congress is good at two things.
00:43:33Making their own lives easier.
00:43:34And making the lives of low-income people harder.
00:43:38>> How do you express that with poor people?
00:43:41Are you going to have rallies?
00:43:42Going to have people protest?
00:43:43How do you get to be -- my dad used to call it a squeaky wheel.
00:43:45Squeaky wheels, as we were just talking about here, get the grease.
00:43:49>> We need to rebuild the poor king did.
00:43:52>> Or abernathy, too.
00:43:53Ralph abernathy.
00:43:56>> Lots of them.
00:43:57They actually pressured richard nixon for the creation of the safety net which reduced hunger in america.
00:44:03We need to better organize the 50 million americans in these straits and convince middle class americans and others it's in their collective self-interest to reduce hunger in america because no superpower in the history of the world has remained a superpower, has remained economically competitive if they let tens of millions of their own residents go hungry.
00:44:25>> Let's thank jon stewart.
00:44:26He said the only food they care about is the food on the tray coming down the first class aisle.
00:44:31Thank you, joel berg.
00:44:32Thank you, josh green, coming back from great reporting there.
00:44:34>>> Up next, senator ted cruz for president?
00:44:37Some conservatives say he's a rock star and could be another barry goldwater.
00:44:40A lot of us like barry goldwater personally.
00:44:43I'm not sure this guy is quite as lovable, and certainly not cuddly.
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00:46:24>>> Rhode island has just now become the tenth state to approve marriage equality in this country.
00:46:29The state's house of representatives passed a measure moments ago.
00:46:31Governor lincoln chafee will sign it into law.
00:46:35That means it's legal now in the states in the northeast.
00:46:37All seven states from new york up to maine.
00:46:40It's also legal in washington state, of course, iowa, maryland, as well as the district of columbia.

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