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william "todd" craven is suing
his ex-wife, yvonne craven, for
damage to his home and for
falsely accusing him of larceny.
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| 00:00:12 | >> Byrd: Order.
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| 00:00:13 | All rise.
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| 00:00:18 | Your honor, this is case number
566 on the calendar in the
MATTER OF CRAVEN vs. CRAVEN.
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| 00:00:22 | Parties have been sworn in,
judge.
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| 00:00:24 | You may be seated.
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| 00:00:25 | Ma'am, have a seat, please.
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| 00:00:26 | >> Judge Judy: craven, the
defendant is your former wife,
and you have two children
together.
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| 00:00:31 | It is your claim that after the
divorce, your wife remained in
the marital home with the two
children with the agreement that
she was to take over the
mortgage payments on the house
and maintain the house.
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| 00:00:42 | She did not do that, according
to your complaint.
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| 00:00:45 | You reclaimed the home through
court process, and when you
moved back into the house, or
when you reclaimed the house,
you found -- you allege that she
had done substantial damage to
the house, and in addition, you
claim that at the same time, she
alleged that you stole property
of hers, which caused you to be
arrested, have to hire an
attorney, went to trial, found
not guilty, and you want her to
be responsible for those fees.
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| 00:01:10 | Mrs. craven says two things.
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| 00:01:12 | She said "a" -- she did not
cause any damage to the house.
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| 00:01:15 | "B" -- you did, in fact, take
property that belonged to her,
and she is counterclaiming
because she says that in
retaliation for something, you
called child protective services
on her and embarked on a pattern
of harassment.
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| 00:01:28 | She wants to be compensated for
that.
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| 00:01:29 | When were you married?
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| 00:01:30 | >> That's a good question, your
honor.
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| 00:01:32 | I don't even remember.
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| 00:01:33 | >> Judge Judy: When were you
married?
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| 00:01:35 | >> February 10, 1996.
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| 00:01:36 | >> Judge Judy: And when were you
divorced?
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| 00:01:38 | >> Our divorce was final
december 1, 2004.
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| 00:01:40 | >> Judge Judy: When did you move
into this home?
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| 00:01:42 | >> Your honor, I bought the home
in 1993 before we met.
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| 00:01:45 | >> Judge Judy: So the house was
yours before you married.
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| 00:01:48 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:01:48 | >> Judge Judy: Can you explain
why your wife remained in the
house?
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| 00:01:52 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:01:53 | She had -- actually, we had
children, and I didn't want to
displace the child, so I wanted
to leave her in the house.
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| 00:02:00 | We made an agreement per this
equitable distribution that was
signed 5 july, 2005 from the
court system, stating that she
could remain.
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| 00:02:10 | >> Judge Judy: Can I see it?
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| 00:02:13 | You mean that was signed after
the divorce.
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| 00:02:16 | If you were divorced in 2004,
this was agreed to a year later,
in 2005?
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| 00:02:21 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:02:22 | >> Judge Judy: So, you did it in
two separate actions.
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| 00:02:26 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:02:27 | >> Judge Judy: Okay.
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| 00:02:32 | So, this provides that at the
time of the divorce, you were
refinancing the marital
residence by taking out a first
and second mortgage, and you
were to be solely responsible to
pay for the first and second
mortgage as long as you lived in
the house, correct?
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| 00:02:50 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:02:51 | >> Judge Judy: For how many
months, miss craven, did you
comply with the terms of this
divorce decree, in paying both
the first or the second --
>> 11 months, and that's when he
quit giving me the bill.
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| 00:03:01 | 'Cause the bill was going to his
house.
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| 00:03:03 | >> Judge Judy: Well, where the
bill was going, you knew that
there was a first and second
mortgage, right?
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| 00:03:08 | And you made a check payable to
that every month, and you
stopped.
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| 00:03:12 | >> I continued to pay the first
mortgage.
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| 00:03:14 | It's the second mortgage I quit
paying 11 months afterwards.
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| 00:03:17 | >> Judge Judy: And why did you
do that?
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| 00:03:19 | >> Several reasons.
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| 00:03:20 | One -- I did not have the means.
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| 00:03:22 | >> Judge Judy: Just a second.
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| 00:03:23 | Then that's the only reason.
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| 00:03:24 | >> Secondly, it was discharged
from my bankruptcy.
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| 00:03:26 | >> Judge Judy: Then all I want
to know is, at that time, sir,
after she filed for bankruptcy
and stopped paying the mortgage
pursuant to this agreement --
no, you said you stopped paying
the second mortgage -- stopped
paying the second mortgage, you
reclaimed the house.
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| 00:03:40 | How did you do that?
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| 00:03:41 | >> I took her to court, and i
have this order showing the
judgment that gives me back the
house.
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| 00:03:45 | >> Judge Judy: On what date?
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| 00:03:46 | >> 1 May, 2006.
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| 00:03:48 | >> Judge Judy: May of 2006.
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| 00:03:50 | Now, was that a contested or an
uncontested proceeding,
mr. craven?
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| 00:03:53 | >> It was definitely contested.
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| 00:03:55 | >> Judge Judy: Contested.
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| 00:03:56 | So, your ex-wife did not want to
leave the marital home.
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| 00:03:58 | >> And she did not want to make
the payment on the property.
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| 00:04:01 | >> Judge Judy: Well, she did not
want to leave.
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| 00:04:03 | And you got the property back.
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| 00:04:04 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:04:05 | >> Judge Judy: And did you move
to evict her?
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| 00:04:07 | >> The judge did, gave her 30
days.
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| 00:04:08 | >> Judge Judy: And when did you
move out, miss craven?
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| 00:04:11 | >> June 1, 2006.
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| 00:04:12 | >> Judge Judy: Now let me see
pictures of the property when
she moved out.
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| 00:04:17 | All of these questions were
designed to come up with an
answer whether this was a happy
reclaiming of the property or an
unhappy reclaiming of the
property, which would all go to
motive for damaging the
property.
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| 00:04:29 | That's all I want to see.
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| 00:04:31 | Okay, so, we have a nice house.
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| 00:04:33 | And then we have a little
garbage here.
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| 00:04:39 | Well, it's definitely messy,
sir.
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| 00:04:41 | How many years did you live in
this house?
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| 00:04:43 | >> I moved in in february 1996.
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| 00:04:45 | >> Judge Judy: And you moved
out?
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| 00:04:47 | >> June 1, 2007.
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| 00:04:48 | >> Judge Judy: So you lived
there about 10 years.
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| 00:04:51 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:04:52 | >> Judge Judy: Other than the
blind that's off and a mess, i
mean, clearly there's a mess.
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| 00:04:57 | You left trash and all kinds of
stuff.
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| 00:05:00 | craven,
that your former wife did not
broom-clean the house.
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| 00:05:04 | >> That's correct.
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| 00:05:05 | Also, there's a door missing off
the washroom.
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| 00:05:07 | >> Judge Judy: Okay, that
happens.
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| 00:05:09 | >> She took the smoke detectors.
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| 00:05:10 | She took the cable connectors.
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| 00:05:12 | She took the garage-door
remotes.
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| 00:05:13 | >> Judge Judy: craven, get
over it.
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| 00:05:15 | When you leave a house that
people have lived in for 10
years, you can either leave the
house broom-clean if you're
selling it, or if you're leaving
it under circumstances where
you've been evicted by your
ex-husband and you've been
evicted with your two children,
you don't particularly feel as
if you have to leave the house
broom-clean, which is what she
did.
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| 00:05:32 | She left the house a mess.
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| 00:05:34 | And if she took the remote for
the garage-door opener, either
she took it or it was lost or
it's in this schmutz that was
left here, but you get over
that.
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| 00:05:42 | Now let me hear about the
property that you say she
alleged that you stole that is
part of your lawsuit.
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| 00:05:50 | >> She was actually supposed to
be out on 31 may as per the
order.
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| 00:05:53 | I went over there 1 june to take
pictures of the property.
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| 00:05:56 | She was still in the property.
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| 00:05:57 | I was gonna take pictures to
take it to court 'cause we had
court that morning for custody.
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| 00:06:01 | She didn't show up, alleging
that I stole the box.
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| 00:06:03 | So, then again, it was postponed
to a later date.
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| 00:06:05 | After it was over, I found out
that she had charged me with
larceny.
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| 00:06:08 | Before I left, she had
confronted me about it.
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| 00:06:10 | And I said, "i didn't steal your
box.
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| 00:06:12 | You're more than welcome to look
"
"
"
>> Judge Judy: What property do
you believe he took from you,
miss craven?
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| 00:06:20 | >> The only thing that was in
that home was all my stuff for
court that morning.
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| 00:06:23 | My boys slept there while we
finished packing up.
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| 00:06:25 | My cousin and I were there all
night cleaning out the house.
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| 00:06:28 | The only thing were there were
clothes for them to go to
school, me to go to court in a
box.
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| 00:06:32 | He's tried to allege that I was
on drugs, drinking.
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| 00:06:34 | I took more drug tests that
month than I've taken in my
life.
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| 00:06:38 | All my evidence was in that box.
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| 00:06:39 | He picked up the box and took
it.
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| 00:06:41 | >> Judge Judy: Who saw him pick
up the box and take it?
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| 00:06:43 | >> When he pulled up, I ran
outside.
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| 00:06:45 | I said, "what are you doing
"
"
I said, "please give us five
minutes.
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| 00:06:50 | "
he pushed his way in, was in the
kitchen with my boys.
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| 00:06:52 | I said, "i've got to go get
"
went and got ready, came back.
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| 00:06:55 | My children were in the living
room.
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| 00:06:57 | He was outside walking around
the yard, but this one box in
the kitchen -- gone.
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| 00:07:00 | >> Judge Judy: craven says
that he said to you, "i don't
have your stuff.
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| 00:07:03 | "
did you go out and look in the
car?
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| 00:07:05 | >> He let me look --
>> Judge Judy: Just a second.
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| 00:07:07 | Just answer my question.
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| 00:07:08 | >> Part of the car.
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| 00:07:09 | >> Judge Judy: Which part of the
car didn't he let you look in?
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| 00:07:11 | >> The back trunk.
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| 00:07:12 | >> Judge Judy: Did you ask to go
into the trunk?
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| 00:07:14 | >> Yeah, he wouldn't let me.
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| 00:07:15 | >> Judge Judy: Is that right?
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| 00:07:16 | >> It's not true.
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| 00:07:17 | I opened every door in the
vehicle.
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| 00:07:18 | >> Judge Judy: Is this the first
time that your former wife has
alleged that you took property?
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| 00:07:22 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:07:23 | >> No, ma'am, just the first
time I've pressed charges.
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| 00:07:25 | That's the third time he stole
from me.
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| 00:07:27 | >> Announcer: "Judge judy"
continues in a moment.
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| 00:07:30 | >> When I had gone in the house,
there were prescription drugs
laying all over the house, and
also criminal record of her
boyfriend.
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| 00:07:36 | The judge said, "i
want you to call child
protective services for your own
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>> Announcer: Real cases.
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| 00:10:25 | Real people.
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| 00:10:25 | "
william "todd" craven says
ex-wife yvonne craven damaged
his home and falsely accused him
of larceny.
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| 00:10:34 | Yvonne is countersuing, claiming
william filed false charges with
child protective services.
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| 00:10:40 | >> Judge Judy: Miss craven, what
you're saying is there's one box
left in the middle of the house.
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| 00:10:44 | Out of how many boxes?
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| 00:10:45 | >> Oh, dear lord.
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| 00:10:46 | >> Judge Judy: A lot.
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| 00:10:47 | >> A lot.
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| 00:10:48 | There was one box in that whole
house and myself and two
children.
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| 00:10:51 | >> The reason -- should I stand
up?
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| 00:10:54 | The reason that one box was even
left in the home is because it
had all of her important papers
and she wanted that with her at
all times.
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| 00:11:00 | >> Judge Judy: You're talking to
me about what's in her mind.
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| 00:11:03 | I want to knfirst, who you
are and when you saw the box.
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| 00:11:06 | >> My name is teresa gale.
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| 00:11:07 | I'm her cousin, but I was there
all night moving with her.
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| 00:11:10 | that
morning, as well as my husband.
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| 00:11:13 | >> Judge Judy: So your husband
was there, too.
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| 00:11:15 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:11:16 | >> Judge Judy: Was he moving
boxes in and out?
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| 00:11:18 | >> Yes, ma'am, as well as half a
dozen other people.
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| 00:11:20 | >> Judge Judy: So there are half
a doze moving
boxes in and out.
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| 00:11:23 | >> But, judge judy, I had to get
my -- he was kneeling down,
talking to my youngest son,
sitting on the box.
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| 00:11:28 | I told him, "i've got to get
ready.
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| 00:11:29 | "
I picked zack up, got just this
little jumper I had in the box
out.
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| 00:11:33 | Zack sat back down on it.
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| 00:11:34 | >> Judge Judy: Just a second.
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| 00:11:35 | So the box contained not only
court papers, but a jumper you
were wearing?
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| 00:11:39 | >> Yes, it had what I was
wearing to court.
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| 00:11:41 | >> Judge Judy: So the box
contained not only court papers,
but clothes.
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| 00:11:45 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:11:46 | >> Judge Judy: Just answer my
question.
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| 00:11:48 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:11:49 | >> Judge Judy: That doesn't
sound right to me, miss craven.
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| 00:11:52 | Something's beginning not to
sound right to me, madam,
because when you keep court
papers, and I know about court
papers, you keephem in a box.
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| 00:11:59 | >> They were like this in a box,
..
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| 00:12:03 | In a suitcase, too.
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| 00:12:04 | I had 30 days to pack up this
home of 11 years and myself and
two children.
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| 00:12:08 | >> Judge Judy: That's enough
time.
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| 00:12:09 | 30 Days is enough time.
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| 00:12:10 | >> I did not leave suitcases
out.
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| 00:12:12 | I grabbed clothes for them.
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| 00:12:13 | They went to bed before we were
finished packing.
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| 00:12:15 | >> Judge Judy: So what you're
telling me is in this one box,
there were clothes for you and
clothes for your children.
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| 00:12:21 | Is that what you're saying?
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| 00:12:22 | >> They were on the box.
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| 00:12:23 | Excuse me.
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| 00:12:28 | >> Judge Judy: craven,
listen to me very carefully,
sir.
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| 00:12:31 | I am never gonna be able to
resolve whether or not that you
did or didot, in fact, take
the box, but I tell you right
now, with at least half a dozen
people in there moving boxes in
and out and with this box
allegedly containing not only
the court papers, but clothes
and other stuff, something
doesn't sound right to me.
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| 00:12:50 | In any event -- you want to show
me something?
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| 00:12:52 | >> Yes, ma'am, I would like to
say something.
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| 00:12:55 | She had, more or less, a
stepmother of 20 years that
lived with her father.
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| 00:12:58 | The day after she allegedly lost
the box, she admitted to her
that she found the box.
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| 00:13:02 | She couldn't come today because
she's having heart surgery, but
she wrote a statement.
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| 00:13:05 | I also had it notarize, stating
what she said.
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| 00:13:07 | >> Judge Judy: So she's having
heart surgery?
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| 00:13:09 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:13:10 | >> Judge Judy: I'd like to see
it.
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| 00:13:12 | >> Can I comment on that, ma'am?
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| 00:13:13 | This is a lady who was my
father's girlfriend who he never
liked.
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| 00:13:17 | She never liked him.
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| 00:13:18 | She moved out of my father's
home, and now has it out for me
and my family.
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| 00:13:22 | >> Judge Judy: I just want to
read what it says, madam,
because there is a reasonable
explanation for her not being
here, and having heart surgery
certainly is a reasonable
explanation, I will take a
notarize statement.
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| 00:13:33 | Ordinarily I don't.
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| 00:13:36 | It says, "the 1st of june,
yvonne called her father --"
that would be you -- "and
then came over to our house.
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| 00:13:43 | She said she was over at
morriston that morning and
todd craven was there.
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| 00:13:47 | She told us that he had taken a
box containing all of her
important papers.
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| 00:13:51 | Between the two of them, it was
decided to call the police and
"
absolutely correct of you to do.
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| 00:13:59 | "She left, met the local police
at morriston, and filed a report
that todd craven had stolen the
box of papers.
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| 00:14:05 | The next morning, she was back
at our house and said that she
had found the missing box at her
new house.
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| 00:14:12 | I was told not to say anything
because they were going to let
things stand as they were, i.e.
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| 00:14:17 | Todd craven accused of stealing
a box that she, in fact, had in
"
that's what I believed happen.
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| 00:14:24 | Don't shake your head, madam.
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| 00:14:26 | I believe that's true.
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| 00:14:28 | Because it just doesn't make
sense to me at all that he would
come into the house, see his
children, steal a box that
looked as if it had clothes in
it, amongst all the boxes that
were left in the house.
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| 00:14:40 | Doesn't sound right to me.
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| 00:14:41 | >> That's not the only time he
has a malicious --
>> Judge Judy: I want to tell
you something, miss craven.
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| 00:14:46 | You believed at first that he
had taken the box, but then when
you got home, 'cause in the
chaos of moving all the boxes --
50 boxes, 6 people working
feverishly -- somebody sees a
box, throws it on the truck.
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| 00:14:58 | You get home, you find the box,
and say, "well, I already made
the complaint, and the hell with
him.
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| 00:15:03 | He evicted me.
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| 00:15:04 | He evicted the children.
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| 00:15:06 | I'm gonna let these charges
"
that's exactly what happened,
and that's malicious.
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| 00:15:12 | >> Announcer: "Judge judy"
continues in a moment.
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| 00:15:15 | >> Judge Judy: If you believe
that this boyfriend who's got an
alcohol-abuse problem is good to
be around your children, that's
your prerogative.
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| 00:15:22 | >> Yeah, but women off the
internet aren't good around my
children, either.
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| 00:15:26 | >> Announcer: Closed captioning
..
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| 00:00:03 | You are about to enter the
courtroom of
judge judith sheindlin.
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| 00:00:08 | The people are real.
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| 00:00:10 | The cases are real.
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| 00:00:12 | The rulings are final.
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| 00:00:12 | Captions paid for bycbs television distribution
22-year-old david olson is suing
fellow bar patron
chad ellinghuysen for elbowing
him in the mouth and breaking
his teeth during an argument
over a girl.
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| 00:00:27 | >> Byrd: Order! all rise!
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| 00:00:32 | Your honor, this is case number
541 on the calendar in the
MATTER OF OLSON vs.
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| 00:00:36 | Ellinghuysen.
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| 00:00:36 | >> Judge Judy: Thank you.
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| 00:00:37 | >> Byrd: You're welcome, judge.
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| 00:00:38 | Parties have been sworn in.
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| 00:00:40 | You may be seated.
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| 00:00:40 | Gentlemen, have a seat.
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| 00:00:41 | >> Judge Judy: When did this
incident occur?
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| 00:00:44 | >> The night after christmas.
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| 00:00:45 | >> Judge Judy: Date?
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| 00:00:46 | >> 12-26, 2009.
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| 00:00:49 | >> Judge Judy: You were out, i
assume, with these friends.
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| 00:00:51 | >> Yes, ma'am.
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| 00:00:52 | >> Judge Judy: Who was the
designated driver?
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| 00:00:53 | >> Dan was.
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| 00:00:54 | >> Judge Judy: Who were you
with?
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| 00:00:56 | >> I was with chris wiebusch
here, my witness, and two other
people.
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| 00:00:59 | >> Judge Judy: Who was the
designated driver?
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| 00:01:01 | >> I was.
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| 00:01:01 | >> Judge Judy: But you weren't
there when this incident
happened?
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| 00:01:04 | >> I was inside of the bar.
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| 00:01:05 | >> Judge Judy: You were not
there when this incident
happened.
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| 00:01:08 | >> Yes.
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| 00:01:09 | >> Judge Judy: Good.
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| 00:01:10 | So, you had been drinking.
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| 00:01:11 | You had been drinking.
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| 00:01:12 | You had been drinking.
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| 00:01:13 | You had been sober.
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| 00:01:14 | >> Yep.
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| 00:01:15 | >> Judge Judy: Perfect.
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| 00:01:16 | Stand up.
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| 00:01:18 | Whose car were you driving that
night?
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| 00:01:20 | >> My own.
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| 00:01:21 | >> Judge Judy: Tell me your last
name.
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| 00:01:23 | >> Funk. f-u-n-k.
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| 00:01:24 | >> Judge Judy: Had you had
ANYTHING TO DRINK ON THE 26th?
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| 00:01:26 | >> No. I went home for supper.
|
| 00:01:28 | >> Judge Judy: funk, you've
watched my program before.
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| 00:01:30 | >> Yep.
|
| 00:01:31 | >> Judge Judy: "Yes" is the
answer.
|
| 00:01:32 | You know we don't play around
here.
|
| 00:01:34 | >> Yeah.
|
| 00:01:34 | >> Judge Judy: I like to get
information through the eyes of
sober people, so I'm gonna ask
you some questions.
|
| 00:01:41 | I expect honest, direct, and
truthful answers to everything
that I ask you, including the
words that I know that many of
your gender don't quite get --
"
you understand?
|
| 00:01:53 | >> Yep.
|
| 00:01:53 | >> Judge Judy: I ask you a
question and you don't know the
"
>> okay.
|
| 00:01:58 | >> Judge Judy: olson says
that he was saulted by the
defendant in a parking lot
outside of a bar --
>> yes.
|
| 00:02:05 | >> Judge Judy:..When he was
elbowed and hurt in his mouth.
|
| 00:02:08 | The defendant says that it was
three against one, which clearly
it was.
|
| 00:02:13 | I mean, there were three of you
and one of him.
|
| 00:02:16 | And I want you to tell me, sir,
what happened on the night of
december 26.
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| 00:02:22 | >> I arrived at the bar, knew
I was gonna be their sober cab,
but there was a bunch of friends
in there that we knew from high
school that were meeting for
christmas break.
|
| 00:02:30 | We walked out to the car.
|
| 00:02:31 | >> Judge Judy: Who walked out to
the car?
|
| 00:02:33 | >> All three of us.
|
| 00:02:33 | >> Judge Judy: Had you picked
mr. olson up that evening?
|
| 00:02:36 | >> Yes, I was taking him back to
damien's place.
|
| 00:02:38 | >> Judge Judy: This is damien?
|
| 00:02:40 | >> Yep, that's him.
|
| 00:02:41 | >> Judge Judy: And there was
just the three of you?
|
| 00:02:43 | >> Yes, in my car.
|
| 00:02:43 | >> Judge Judy: You picked them
up at what time?
|
| 00:02:45 | >> It was after midnight --
00, maybe -- right
around there.
|
| 00:02:49 | >> Judge Judy: Where did you
pick them up from?
|
| 00:02:51 | >> Beer belly's.
|
| 00:02:52 | >> Judge Judy: Beer belly's,
which is a bar.
|
| 00:02:53 | >> Yep.
|
| 00:02:54 | >> Judge Judy: I assume.
|
| 00:02:55 | Do you know how they got to
beer belly's?
|
| 00:02:57 | >> One of their cars was there.
|
| 00:02:58 | I think it was damien's, maybe.
|
| 00:02:59 | >> Judge Judy: Is that right,
damien?
|
| 00:03:01 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:03:01 | >> Judge Judy: Do you know what
time they arrived at
beer belly's?
|
| 00:03:04 | >> I have no idea.
|
| 00:03:05 | I was working late that night.
|
| 00:03:06 | >> Judge Judy: You picked them
up.
|
| 00:03:08 | They had already had alcohol.
|
| 00:03:09 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:03:09 | >> Judge Judy: And that, you
could tell.
|
| 00:03:11 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:03:12 | >> Judge Judy: You did or did
not go into the bar?
|
| 00:03:14 | >> I did go into the bar.
|
| 00:03:15 | >> Judge Judy: How long were you
there?
|
| 00:03:17 | >> An hour, hour and a half,
probably.
|
| 00:03:19 | >> Judge Judy: And in the hour
or hour and a half, how much did
mr. olson have to drink?
|
| 00:03:23 | >> I saw him with the same drink
the whole night that I was
there.
|
| 00:03:26 | I was talking with friends.
|
| 00:03:27 | >> Judge Judy: What kind of
drink?
|
| 00:03:28 | >> A blue one. I don't know.
|
| 00:03:29 | >> Judge Judy: A blue one?
|
| 00:03:31 | What's a blue drink?
|
| 00:03:32 | >> Uv blue vodka and
mountain dew.
|
| 00:03:33 | >> Judge Judy: Vodka and
mountain dew?
|
| 00:03:36 | Sounds like something my
3-year-old grandchild would
make.
|
| 00:03:39 | >> Very tasty.
|
| 00:03:40 | >> Judge Judy: How many of those
had you had during the course of
the evening?
|
| 00:03:43 | >> I had three.
|
| 00:03:44 | >> Judge Judy: You had three?
|
| 00:03:45 | Okay, so, you're there about an
hour, an hour and a half, and?
|
| 00:03:47 | >> They were ready to leave, so
I said that's fine, so we
started walking out to the car.
|
| 00:03:51 | We all got in the car.
|
| 00:03:53 | Damien was sitting behind me.
|
| 00:03:54 | David was sitting in the
passenger seat, and then i
remember that damien rolled down
the window, and that's when
mr. ellinghuysen grabbed him.
|
| 00:04:00 | >> Judge Judy: Just a second.
|
| 00:04:01 | I want you to keep your eyes
on me.
|
| 00:04:03 | >> Okay.
|
| 00:04:04 | >> Judge Judy: Damien rolled
down the window -- the back
window.
|
| 00:04:07 | >> Your honor --
>> Judge Judy: Stop!
|
| 00:04:09 | I don't want you to say a word!
|
| 00:04:11 | If I wanted to start with you, i
would have started with you.
|
| 00:04:14 | >> Yes, ma'am.
|
| 00:04:15 | >> Judge Judy: Do you
understand?
|
| 00:04:16 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:04:17 | >> Judge Judy: Damien rolled
down his window.
|
| 00:04:18 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:04:19 | >> Judge Judy: This was in
december.
|
| 00:04:21 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:04:21 | >> Judge Judy: Where do you
live?
|
| 00:04:23 | >> Minnesota.
|
| 00:04:23 | >> Judge Judy: Minnesota.
|
| 00:04:25 | Careful what we say, mr. funk.
|
| 00:04:27 | Put your hand down!
|
| 00:04:29 | And you saw -- pronounce your
last name.
|
| 00:04:32 | >> Ellinghuysen.
|
| 00:04:33 | >> Judge Judy: Ellinghuysen walk
over to the back window.
|
| 00:04:36 | >> He was walking out with us.
|
| 00:04:37 | >> Judge Judy: But he didn't get
into the car?
|
| 00:04:39 | >> No, he grabbed damien through
the car window.
|
| 00:04:41 | >> Judge Judy: Did damien say
anything when he rolled down the
window to get some air?
|
| 00:04:47 | >> I didn't hear him.
|
| 00:04:48 | >> Judge Judy: Did you hear the
defendant say anything to
damien?
|
| 00:04:52 | >> I didn't hear anything about
that, either.
|
| 00:04:54 | >> Judge Judy: What did you see
next?
|
| 00:04:56 | >> That's when I saw him grab
damien through the car.
|
| 00:04:58 | >> Judge Judy: How did he grab
him through the car?
|
| 00:05:00 | >> Reached through the window
with his hands.
|
| 00:05:02 | >> Judge Judy: Where did he
reach?
|
| 00:05:04 | >> Chest area is what I saw.
|
| 00:05:05 | >> Judge Judy: And?
|
| 00:05:06 | >> Then he opened up the door,
pulled damien out my car door,
and then that's when they began
wrestling.
|
| 00:05:12 | >> Judge Judy: Okay, so, he
pulled damien out of the car
door, and the two of them
started wrestling.
|
| 00:05:18 | >> Wrestling on the ground.
|
| 00:05:19 | >> Judge Judy: Okay. keep going.
|
| 00:05:21 | >> And then david got out of the
car door, went over, and grabbed
damien off of mr. ellinghuysen.
|
| 00:05:26 | >> Judge Judy: So damien was on
top?
|
| 00:05:28 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:05:28 | >> Judge Judy: So he grabbed
damien off the defendant?
|
| 00:05:31 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:05:31 | >> Judge Judy: And?
|
| 00:05:33 | >> That's when he grabbed him
off, then we were all standing
in a circle.
|
| 00:05:36 | >> Judge Judy: What do you mean,
all standing in a circle?
|
| 00:05:39 | You got out of the car.
|
| 00:05:40 | >> Us four, yeah.
|
| 00:05:41 | >> Judge Judy: Just a second.
|
| 00:05:42 | Well, you didn't tell me you got
out of the car.
|
| 00:05:44 | When did you get out of the car?
|
| 00:05:46 | >> After david had damien pulled
off.
|
| 00:05:48 | The fight, or the wrestling, was
over by that time.
|
| 00:05:50 | I didn't even do anything.
|
| 00:05:51 | >> Judge Judy: Okay.
|
| 00:05:52 | So, you got out of the car, and?
|
| 00:05:54 | >> That's when --
>> Judge Judy: Look at me.
|
| 00:05:56 | Don't look down. look at me.
|
| 00:05:58 | >> What I said is that, you
know, why are we fighting over
this?
|
| 00:06:00 | >> Judge Judy: Why are you
fighting over what?
|
| 00:06:02 | >> A girl.
|
| 00:06:02 | >> Judge Judy: Is that what the
fight was about?
|
| 00:06:04 | >> It was about some words that
were exchanged about a girl.
|
| 00:06:06 | >> Judge Judy: How did you know
that?
|
| 00:06:08 | >> That's what he said when we
got outside.
|
| 00:06:10 | >> Judge Judy: Oh, well, what
did he say?
|
| 00:06:12 | >> That damien called the girl a
name, and that's what
mr. ellinghuysen got mad about.
|
| 00:06:16 | And we were all standing in that
circle.
|
| 00:06:17 | That's when I heard about that.
|
| 00:06:19 | >> Judge Judy: So, you said, "i
don't see why we're all fighting
about this thing.
|
| 00:06:23 | It's about a girl." whatever.
|
| 00:06:25 | And then what happened?
|
| 00:06:26 | >> That's when we were all
standing there, thought it was
all over with, we'd all go home.
|
| 00:06:30 | And then, out of the blue, his
elbow came up, got david.
|
| 00:06:33 | David went down to his knees.
|
| 00:06:34 | >> Judge Judy: How did that
happen?
|
| 00:06:36 | You were all standing around in
a circle.
|
| 00:06:38 | As a matter of fact, we have the
same four players right here.
|
| 00:06:40 | I want you to stand in the
middle right here and stage to
me exactly -- you stage to me --
exactly what you saw happen.
|
| 00:06:48 | Get everybody up -- everyone.
|
| 00:06:50 | [ Laughter ]
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continues in a moment.
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| 00:06:53 | >> Judge Judy: That's not what
mr. funk said.
|
| 00:06:56 | So, between you and your
witness, one of you is lying.
|
| 00:06:58 | Either you're lying or he's
lying.
|
| 00:07:00 | Who's lying?
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| 00:08:37 | "
david olson says fellow bar
patron chad ellinghuysen elbowed
him in the mouth and broke his
teeth during an argument in a
bar parking lot.
|
| 00:08:48 | >> Judge Judy: Now I want you to
place everybody, including him,
where everybody was standing
that day.
|
| 00:08:54 | >> This is how I think I --
>> Judge Judy: Move!
|
| 00:08:57 | ellinghuysen was right
there.
|
| 00:08:59 | Damien was right here.
|
| 00:09:00 | >> Judge Judy: G-go.
|
| 00:09:02 | Move where he puts you.
|
| 00:09:03 | Now, what I want you to do is,
as soon as you remember exactly
how it was --
>> this is how I remember it.
|
| 00:09:10 | >> Judge Judy: Fine.
|
| 00:09:12 | Now I want you to change places
with the plaintiff.
|
| 00:09:15 | Change places with the
plaintiff.
|
| 00:09:18 | Now I want you to show -- this
is where we are.
|
| 00:09:20 | Fight's over.
|
| 00:09:21 | The discussion's over.
|
| 00:09:22 | I want you to show me what you
saw next.
|
| 00:09:26 | >> It was all over with, and
that's when --
>> Judge Judy: Show me!
|
| 00:09:30 | >> Okay.
|
| 00:09:30 | You want me to put his elbow --
>> Judge Judy: I want you to
show me.
|
| 00:09:33 | Take his elbow.
|
| 00:09:34 | Do whatever you want.
|
| 00:09:35 | >> And that's when it went up
into his teeth.
|
| 00:09:37 | >> Judge Judy: You're all
standing around, and that's how
it happened?
|
| 00:09:40 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:09:41 | >> Judge Judy: He lifted up his
olson
in the mouth.
|
| 00:09:46 | >> Yep.
|
| 00:09:47 | >> Judge Judy: Thank you.
|
| 00:09:48 | Now you can all assume your
positions.
|
| 00:09:51 | Well, that's not your story at
all.
|
| 00:09:53 | I read your complaint.
|
| 00:09:55 | That's not your story, so either
he's lying or you're lying.
|
| 00:09:57 | We have to figure out who's
lying.
|
| 00:09:59 | Because let me read to you what
you say in your complaint.
|
| 00:10:03 | Okay?
|
| 00:10:04 | >> Yep.
|
| 00:10:04 | >> Judge Judy: Mm-hmm.
|
| 00:10:06 | "The defendant opened the door
and pulled damien out.
|
| 00:10:10 | The two of them started
fighting, and we feared that the
defendant might seriously hurt
"
>> yes.
|
| 00:10:18 | >> Judge Judy: "So I did my best
to break up the fight.
|
| 00:10:21 | I pulled thedefendantoff
"
that's not what mr. funk says.
|
| 00:10:27 | Mr. funk says damien was on top.
|
| 00:10:29 | That's what mr. funk says.
|
| 00:10:31 | He was on top and he was pulled
off the defendant.
|
| 00:10:36 | "I pulled the defendant off
damien, and he elbowed me in the
"
that's what you say.
|
| 00:10:43 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:10:44 | >> Judge Judy: Now, between you
and your witness, one of you is
lying.
|
| 00:10:48 | Either you're lying or he's
lying.
|
| 00:10:50 | Who's lying?
|
| 00:10:51 | >> Your honor, can I have a
chance to say exactly what
happened that night?
|
| 00:10:55 | >> Judge Judy: Well, I don't
know if you can tell me exactly
what happened, sir.
|
| 00:10:58 | You were drinking.
|
| 00:10:59 | >> Not that much, nowhere --
>> Judge Judy: He wasn't
drinking at all.
|
| 00:11:02 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:11:03 | >> Judge Judy: He'syour
witness.
|
| 00:11:05 | Either he's lying or your
complaint is lying, 'cause
that's what happens when
everybody drinks.
|
| 00:11:09 | Things get a little blurry.
|
| 00:11:11 | Now you can sit down, mr. funk.
|
| 00:11:12 | You have been a most effective
witness.
|
| 00:11:17 | Go ahead.
|
| 00:11:18 | >> Well, we were out that night,
like dan said --
>> Judge Judy: I know, you were
out that night.
|
| 00:11:22 | I'm now in the parking lot.
|
| 00:11:23 | >> You're in the parking lot.
|
| 00:11:25 | Well, the reason why chad was
coming up there, because he was
accusing damien --
>> Judge Judy: Of saying
something nasty to a girl.
|
| 00:11:30 | I also don't care about that.
|
| 00:11:32 | I care about "up to the car,
"
>> all right, yep, pulling
damien out of the car, and they
begin to fight on the ground,
where damien got punched in the
head.
|
| 00:11:41 | I got pictures here to show you
all this.
|
| 00:11:43 | They were on the ground, rolling
around, wrestling, or what they
do, so I got out of the car.
|
| 00:11:47 | I ran around there.
|
| 00:11:48 | I pulled chad off damien.
|
| 00:11:50 | >> Judge Judy: Okay, so you
pulled chad off damien.
|
| 00:11:52 | So your witness is now not
telling the truth?
|
| 00:11:55 | Stop!
|
| 00:11:56 | Can't be both ways.
|
| 00:11:57 | Either your witness, who's
sober, is not telling the truth,
or you're not telling the truth.
|
| 00:12:02 | So, I guess it would be your
witness who's not telling the
truth?
|
| 00:12:04 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:12:05 | >> Judge Judy: So, you pulled
the defendant off damien, and
then what happened?
|
| 00:12:10 | >> And then they all stood up,
and those two continued to argue
about what was said to this
girl, or whatever, then all of a
sudden, he blatantly elbows me
right in the mouth, knocking me
on my feet.
|
| 00:12:20 | Next thing you know, I'm
spitting my teeth out, bleeding.
|
| 00:12:22 | >> Judge Judy: That's certainly
not what you wrote here.
|
| 00:12:24 | You said you pulled him off, and
as you pulled him off, he
elbowed you.
|
| 00:12:27 | That is emotion that I can
understand.
|
| 00:12:29 | It's not true, according to him.
|
| 00:12:31 | But it's emotion that I can
understand.
|
| 00:12:34 | If he's on top and you're
pulling him off, I can
understand him, as you're
pulling him off, him going like
this to you.
|
| 00:12:40 | That, I can understand.
|
| 00:12:41 | Now, it may not have been what
happened.
|
| 00:12:43 | According to the only sober one
that I've heard so far, it's not
what happened.
|
| 00:12:47 | You want to tell me your
version of the events, sir?
|
| 00:12:49 | >> Yes, your honor.
|
| 00:12:50 | We were at the bar.
|
| 00:12:51 | I was out with some friends.
|
| 00:12:52 | >> Judge Judy: I'm not
interested.
|
| 00:12:54 | Somebody said something nasty to
a girl.
|
| 00:12:56 | You went outside.
|
| 00:12:57 | I read your answer.
|
| 00:12:58 | You went outside to make sure
nobody did anything to a car.
|
| 00:13:00 | >> To the vehicles, yep.
|
| 00:13:01 | >> Judge Judy: Listen to me.
|
| 00:13:02 | That, I don't believe.
|
| 00:13:03 | And I want to know from you what
time you arrived at the bar and
what was your drink of choice
that night, if you remember?
|
| 00:13:08 | >> We arrived there probably
about 10:00 at night.
|
| 00:13:10 | >> Judge Judy: So you'd been
there a couple, three hours at
least?
|
| 00:13:13 | >> Yeah.
|
| 00:13:13 | >> Judge Judy: What were you
drinking that night?
|
| 00:13:15 | >> McGOLDEN.
|
| 00:13:16 | >> Judge Judy: What?
|
| 00:13:17 | >> McGOLDEN.
|
| 00:13:17 | It's a minnesota beer.
|
| 00:13:18 | >> Judge Judy: Beer?
|
| 00:13:19 | >> Yep.
|
| 00:13:19 | >> Judge Judy: Now, you had had
some difficulty with one of
these guys who said something
nasty.
|
| 00:13:24 | That would have been damien
saying something nasty to a girl
you knew.
|
| 00:13:27 | You went outside, whatever.
|
| 00:13:29 | You had words, and go!
|
| 00:13:30 | >> At the car --
>> Judge Judy: At what car?
|
| 00:13:32 | >> I was following them out
because I wanted --
>> Judge Judy: What were you
doing near their car?
|
| 00:13:35 | You can follow them out.
|
| 00:13:36 | You don't have to follow them
out and be up their nose.
|
| 00:13:38 | >> Yep, I know.
|
| 00:13:39 | >> Judge Judy: Yeah, so you
followed him to his car.
|
| 00:13:41 | >> Followed him to his car.
|
| 00:13:42 | >> Judge Judy: Followed him to
his car.
|
| 00:13:43 | Now we're getting down to it.
|
| 00:13:44 | >> As I was walking over to the
car to make sure nothing was
gonna happen, they were driving
out.
|
| 00:13:48 | They stopped, rolled down the
window of their car.
|
| 00:13:49 | >> That is --
>> Judge Judy: Stop!
|
| 00:13:51 | >> So, they stopped.
|
| 00:13:52 | They rolled down the window.
|
| 00:13:53 | They started running their
mouth.
|
| 00:13:54 | I did not pull damien out of the
car.
|
| 00:13:55 | He got out of the car.
|
| 00:13:56 | >> Judge Judy: And?
|
| 00:13:57 | >> And that's when it started.
|
| 00:13:58 | We had a little push match, and
then we hit the ground.
|
| 00:14:01 | We were wrestling, and nothing
happened.
|
| 00:14:02 | >> Judge Judy: And?
|
| 00:14:03 | >> The other two people come
around the car.
|
| 00:14:05 | Don't ask me how his teeth got
knocked out.
|
| 00:14:07 | >> Judge Judy: And?
|
| 00:14:07 | >> And that was it.
|
| 00:14:08 | We were all back on our feet,
and, yeah, he was holding his
mouth, but I can't tell you
how his teeth got knocked out.
|
| 00:14:14 | >> Judge Judy: Let me ask you
this question, sir.
|
| 00:14:16 | Who's fault do you think that
is?
|
| 00:14:18 | >> The person that got out of
the car.
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| 00:14:19 | He had a choice to stay in the
car.
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| 00:14:21 | >> Judge Judy: No.
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| 00:14:22 | Not totally.
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| 00:14:23 | See what happens when morons
drink?
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| 00:14:25 | How old are you?
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| 00:14:26 | >> 27.
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| 00:14:26 | >> Judge Judy: You're getting
old enough to know better.
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| 00:14:29 | You're getting to be a little
long in -- listen to me.
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| 00:14:31 | Listen to me.
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| 00:14:31 | You're getting to be a little
long in the tooth to have bar
fights.
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| 00:14:35 | >> Announcer: "Judge judy"
continues in a moment.
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| 00:14:38 | >> Judge Judy: Did you tell
damien to shut his big mouth?
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| 00:14:42 | >> I didn't.
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| 00:14:42 | >> Judge Judy: Is he usually a
moron troublemaker?
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| 00:14:44 | >> No, ma'am.
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| 00:14:45 | >> Judge Judy: But he was that
night.
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| 00:14:47 | >> Yes.
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| 00:14:47 | >> Judge Judy: Now we're getting
somewhere.
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| 00:14:49 | >> Announcer: Closed captioning
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| 00:15:04 | You stood in the basement gathering dust
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| 00:17:45 | >> Announcer: Real cases.
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| 00:17:46 | Real people.
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| 00:17:47 | "
david olson claims fellow bar
patron chad ellinghuysen elbowed
him in the mouth and broke his
teeth.
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| 00:17:56 | >> Judge Judy: Now stand up.
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| 00:17:58 | Last name?
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| 00:17:59 | >> Wiebusch.
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| 00:18:00 | >> Judge Judy: Did you see chad
leave the bar?
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| 00:18:02 | >> Chad was already outside.
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| 00:18:04 | Chad was outside.
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| 00:18:05 | I seen them three leave, but i
was inside talking to some other
friends.
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| 00:18:09 | >> Judge Judy: The question is,
did you see him leave or not?
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| 00:18:12 | >> Not before the fight.
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| 00:18:13 | I left the bar with him.
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| 00:18:15 | I drove him, so no.
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| 00:18:16 | >> Judge Judy: Did you see the
other three leave?
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| 00:18:19 | >> I saw them leave.
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| 00:18:20 | >> Judge Judy: Listen to me.
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| 00:18:22 | Your friend says he followed
them out of the club.
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| 00:18:27 | So -- don't try to anticipate
what I'm saying.
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| 00:18:29 | If you tell the truth, you don't
have to have a good memory.
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| 00:18:33 | Your friend says he followed
them out to make sure that they
didn't do anything to your car.
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| 00:18:39 | So if you saw them leave, he
couldn't have been outside
already.
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| 00:18:44 | >> He was outside.
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| 00:18:45 | >> Smoking.
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| 00:18:46 | >> Judge Judy: Don't participate
unless I look in your direction.
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| 00:18:49 | >> At the time, I didn't know
nothing was gonna happen.
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| 00:18:51 | >> Judge Judy: I didn't ask you
anything.
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| 00:18:53 | >> Okay.
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| 00:18:58 | "I wanted to make sure that they
didnng to my
friend's car, so I followed them
into the parking lot to make
sure they got into their car and
"
so you saw them leave, but you
didn't see him leave?
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| 00:19:09 | >> He was already outside with
the girl.
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| 00:19:11 | >> Judge Judy: With what girl?
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| 00:19:12 | The girl over whom there was a
dispute?
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| 00:19:15 | >> Yeah.
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| 00:19:15 | >> Judge Judy: So, now let me
understand this.
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| 00:19:18 | Perfect.
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| 00:19:19 | He's standing outside smoking
with the girl to whom damien had
said an unattractive thing, and
now he's outside with the same
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