| 00:00:32 | When we have a vote, when they
have a vote and elect new
leadership in egypt, it's not a
process that closes off the
people to have the kind of
freedoms they've been arguing
for.
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| 00:00:50 | >> Nobody saw this coming in
egypt.
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| 00:00:53 | We kind of guessed tunisia, that
would unravel, but egypt came
out of nowhere, really.
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| 00:00:58 | Were you shocked?
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| 00:00:59 | What do you think's going to
happen now?
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| 00:01:03 | It seems to me mubarak can say
what he like, but the people are
marching and they want him gone
now.
|
| 00:01:09 | ben ali was
removed in tunisia, there was
the general alert that there was
going to be reaction and people
taking to the streets saying, we
want freedom too, we want our
voices to be heard.
|
| 00:01:28 | And we shouldn't be too
surprised that something like
this would happen in egypt.
|
| 00:01:33 | But the scale of it probably
surprised a lot of folks.
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| 00:01:38 | I think the administration in
their earliest comments were
caught a bit off guard.
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| 00:01:45 | >> If you'd been asked as vice
president biden was asked, is he
a dictator, what would you have
said?
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| 00:01:51 | >> I'm not in the vice
president's shoes, so I'm not
going to --
>> let me ask you as governor
romney, is he a dictator?
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| 00:01:56 | >> He's the leader of his
country, he's a monarch-type
figure --
>> lots of monarchs have been
dictators.
|
| 00:02:06 | >> I would avoid the word
"dictator," but the country has
not had the kind of economic and
litical freedom that they
aspire to.
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| 00:02:15 | And that's something i
understand.
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| 00:02:19 | Over many administrations in
this country, we've encouraged
president mubarak to move in the
direction of providing these
freedoms and it's going to
happen.
|
| 00:02:26 | >> President mubarak has
persistent refused to do that.
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| 00:02:29 | That's precisely why he's in the
hole he's in now.
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| 00:02:32 | And you have this mass populous
and they're all saying, hang on
a second, america is still
supporting this guy, allowing
him to have his six, seven
months of handover, whatever it
wants to be.
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| 00:02:44 | They don't want that.
|
| 00:02:45 | They want this guy gone.
|
| 00:02:46 | They see him as a dictator and
they want someone in america to
actually stand up for them,
don't they?
|
| 00:02:53 | >> They want to know that the
america people stand with the
voices of freedom and democracy,
and we do.
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| 00:02:59 | We also want to see in our
country a willingness to support
a process that leads to a
permanent democracy, not
something that can be kidnap as
the islamists.
|
| 00:03:07 | But the transition process will
look like -- I don't know, maybe
the military will decide to take
a more active role.
|
| 00:03:15 | Maybe president mubarak can
convince opposition leaders that
he can move the nation to a
permanent status of democracy.
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| 00:03:23 | But we don't want to have the
country just fall into anarchy
and to have a setting where it's
available for the most extreme
elements and the most violent
elements to take control pop >>
how could this affect american
foreign policy going forward, in
the sense that it may be now
very antiquated for america to
continue supporting and propping
up people who run these country
who are perceived by their
people to be dictators.
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| 00:03:46 | That game may be over, however
helpful and supportive people
like mubarak have been to
america, which he undisputably
has been, hasn't that game run
its course?
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| 00:03:57 | >> There's always been a
conflict and a balance, one
being that we support values and
principles they are consistent
with our own.
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| 00:04:09 | At the same time, we have an
interest in our national
security.
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| 00:04:13 | And if a nation is headed by a
monarch or headed by another
leader whose form of government
we don't particularly appreciate
or approve of, we don't come in
and say, we won't work with you,
we won't negotiate with you, we
won't sign a peace agreement
with you.
|
| 00:04:26 | This, after all, has been an
administration that has been
friendly with us and has
agreements with us to protect
our ally.
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| 00:04:34 | So we can't say we're going to
rip everything apart and fashion
your nation the way we would
like to be.
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| 00:04:41 | But we're not going to go around
the world and change every
government to fashion it after
our always and in some cases
we'll be dealing with
representatives who are less
than the representatives we
would like to have.
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| 00:04:53 | But in each case, we need to let
them know that we stand for
freedom and to have a government
that will be stable.
|
| 00:05:00 | >> You've just been in the
region.
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| 00:05:04 | What was your take on --
obviously, this is before what
happened in egypt, so it's with
hindsight, but what was your
take on what was going on there
when you were there?
|
| 00:05:13 | >> It was just a few weeks ago
and the sentiment there and the
perception at that time was
dramatically different.
|
| 00:05:19 | I spent most of my time in
afghanistan and israel, but i
did meet with king abdullah in
jordan.
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| 00:05:24 | And at that point the concerns
we addressed were concerns o
the economy and how to get
people working again and improve
the lots of the people in his
nation.
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| 00:05:32 | But the thoughts of a potential
change in his government as he
has announced today, I believe,
those are not things even being
considered at that point.
|
| 00:05:40 | >> Were you surprised?
|
| 00:05:41 | >> Well, what happened in
tunisia is having a seismic
effect on what's happening
throughout the middle east.
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| 00:05:47 | Not surprised by his decision to
make a change.
|
| 00:05:50 | >>> When we come back, governor
romney.
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| 00:05:52 | I'm going to put you on the spot
and not ask you if you're going
to run for the presidency, but
when.
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| 00:09:50 | >>> Come now, I'm going to put
this to you straight.
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| 00:09:52 | Yes or no, are you going to run
for the presidency again?
|
| 00:09:54 | >> I don't have an answer for
you yet, because there are a lot
of things you have to consider
before you make that final
decision.
|
| 00:09:59 | Clearly, I'm doing the things
like other folks are doing to
keep the option open and moving
forward in the event that I make
a positive decision, but there
are matters of health, of
support, of the kind of network
you'd like to have of
individuals behind you.
|
| 00:10:11 | Those are things you've got to
assess before you make a final
decision.
|
| 00:10:15 | >> Am I right in thinking you
know the answer, you just don't
want to give it to me yet?
|
| 00:10:19 | >> No, I don't have a 100%
answer ready to go.
|
| 00:10:22 | My wife think I should run.
|
| 00:10:23 | She's absolutely committed.
|
| 00:10:24 | She's saying, you've got to run,
you've got to have somebody who
understands the economy, she's
ready for me to run.
|
| 00:10:36 | >> Are your chances, do you
think, advanced in a positive
way by the existence of sarah
palin, that she's such a
polarizing figure, the whole tea
party machine, depending on who
you talk to the in the
republican party, half the
people like it, half the people
think it could cost you the next
election.
|
| 00:10:55 | Is you and your position now
emerge as the savior, if you
like, of all this polarizing?
|
| 00:10:59 | >> You know, I'm not somebody
who can analyze for you the
politics.
|
| 00:11:03 | >> Yes, you are.
|
| 00:11:05 | You're the perfect person.
|
| 00:11:06 | >> I'm not a pundit, I'm not a
pollster.
|
| 00:11:08 | >> You're a politician.
|
| 00:11:09 | >> I spent four years in the
governor's chair, and it was a
terrific position, but I spent
almost 25 years of my life in
the public sector.
|
| 00:11:18 | So in terms of being an analyst
of the political to and fro, I'm
not the right guy to talk to.
|
| 00:11:21 | But I can tell you what i
believe.
|
| 00:11:25 | >> What do you believe about
sarah palin?
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| 00:11:28 | >> I believe she's an
extraordinarily powerful and
effective voice in our party,
that she has generated a great
deal of support and attention,
she'd be great in a primary
process, she'd bring attention
to the process.
|
| 00:11:39 | And frankly, the more people we
have on the stage in those
debates, talking about different
ideas and different approaches,
the better.
|
| 00:11:44 | >> Could you beat her?
|
| 00:11:45 | >> I don't know the answer to
that.
|
| 00:11:48 | >> Does your wife know the
answer tthat?
|
| 00:11:50 | >> She probably does.
|
| 00:11:51 | >> She thinks you can beat
everyone, doesn't she >> I'm not
sure whether she knows if I can
win or lose, but she knows that
someone of my experience is
needed in the country at a time
like this.
|
| 00:12:01 | >> Never mind what you think,
because she's fascinating here,
why does your wife think you
lost last time?
|
| 00:12:08 | >> That's a darned good
question.
|
| 00:12:11 | I cannot read her mind on all
dimensions, but we talk about --
>> she must have sat you down
and say, here's where you went
wrong.
|
| 00:12:18 | >> She would say, and I would
SAY, THAT john McCain ran a very
good campaign, and the most
important thing in the country
WAS IRAQ, AND john McCain was an
indisputed expert on iraq, and
that was in his favor.
|
| 00:12:36 | And I spent a lot of time
talking about issues that were
not central to the reason I was
running.
|
| 00:12:41 | But even if I had been the
NOMINEE INSTEAD OF john McCain,
I probably would have lost to
barack obama too.
|
| 00:12:47 | >> You're a bit older now, a bit
wiser.
|
| 00:12:50 | You know, when I study you as a
potential candidate, you tick
all the boxes, harvard mba, very
hardworking, very rich, decent
guy, religiously devout and a
smart business guy.
|
| 00:13:03 | If I was a voter, you're there.
|
| 00:13:04 | There's no problem with you.
|
| 00:13:06 | I mean, you don't drink, you
don't -- never taken drugs, you
don't smoke, you're a family
man.
|
| 00:13:12 | I mean, you're pretty perfect,
aren't you?
|
| 00:13:14 | >> Well, I think people would --
particularly my family, would
disagree with that conclusion.
|
| 00:13:18 | >> I want to play you a clip
now, and it relates to your
mormon faith and I want you to
watch this and we'll discuss it
after.
|
| 00:13:24 | >> Sure.
|
| 00:13:26 | >> I believe in my mormon faith
and I endeavor to live by it.
|
| 00:13:30 | My faith is the faith of my
fathers.
|
| 00:13:32 | I'll be true to them and to my
beliefs.
|
| 00:13:36 | Some believe that such a
confession of my faith will sink
my candidacy.
|
| 00:13:40 | If they're right, so be it.
|
| 00:13:44 | >> Do you still stand by every
word of that?
|
| 00:13:46 | >> Absolutely.
|
| 00:13:47 | >> Do you think it's going to be
a potential problem if you run,
your faith?
|
| 00:13:51 | >> Once again, I can't judge the
politics.
|
| 00:13:54 | I don't know the answer to that.
|
| 00:13:55 | My experience, so far, both in
massachusetts, running as a
mormon guy in a state that's
overwhelmingly of other faiths
didn't seem to get in my way
there.
|
| 00:14:05 | But most people in this country
recognize that, in fact, the
nation itself was founded on the
principle of religious tolerance
and freedom.
|
| 00:14:14 | We respect other people's
beliefs and I think in a lot of
cases respect people who honor
their faith and try to be true
to them.
|
| 00:14:20 | >> Finally, you're known in some
circles in washington as mr.
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| 00:14:23 | Flip-flop, which I thought was
something to do with beaches,
but apparently it means that
you've had a little tendency to
move with the sand a little on
issues.
|
| 00:14:34 | How do you respond to that
charge?
|
| 00:14:36 | >> Well, a lot of things are
charged in politics, some
accurate, some not.
|
| 00:14:39 | And the nice thing about writing
a book, like I did a year ago, i
lay out a pretty clear vision of
what I would do on the major
issues that the country faces.
|
| 00:14:48 | And if anyone wants to know
where I stand on virtually any
major issue of the time, they
can look at that book and say,
oh, that's where he is.
|
| 00:14:57 | And you're going to see me
talking day in, day out, whether
I'm a candidate or not a
candidate, about the things i
think america has to do to
remain the exceptional leader in
the world, to protect freedom
here, to get the economy going
again, to create jobs.
|
| 00:15:10 | People in america want to know
who can get 15 million people
back to work.
|
| 00:15:14 | >> If you were president right
now, what's the one thing you'd
change right now?
|
| 00:15:17 | Most important thing to you?
|
| 00:15:19 | >> I would reverse all of the
policies that have made america
one of the least friendly places
to start new businesses and to
grow business.
|
| 00:15:28 | We have made it hard to create
jobs, hard for entrepreneurs,
hard for small business.
|
| 00:15:33 | And this administration, while
saying they hope to make things
business friendly, have done
just the opposite.
|
| 00:15:38 | Make america the most attractive
place for entrepreneurs,
innovators, creators, people who
want to work hard, labor, that's
what we've got to do to make
america strong again.
|
| 00:15:46 | >> Governor romney, thank, and
can you come back when you've
got a bit more to say about your
decision.
|
| 00:15:51 | >> Absolutely.
|
| 00:15:52 | >> And more importantly, bring
mrs. romney as well.
|
| 00:15:55 | >> Nice to meet you.
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| 00:15:56 | >> Thanks, piers.
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>>> Is tracking toward the east.
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| 00:20:31 | Let's give you the rundown.
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| 00:20:34 | More than 100,000 people
reported without power across
portions of the midwest,
specifically in ohio.
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| 00:20:42 | We are looking at icing
conditions and snow.
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| 00:20:46 | Let's go back over across
missouri.
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| 00:20:49 | They are saying interstate 70
over toward the kansas border
issue down.
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| 00:20:54 | They have seen ice, snow, and
also near blizzard conditions.
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| 00:21:02 | Very treacherous driving
conditions.
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| 00:21:04 | From springfield down toward the
oklahoma border.
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| 00:21:08 | Let's travel further toward the
north and northeast.
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| 00:21:12 | We have seen when gas and
chicago near 60 miles an hour.
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| 00:21:15 | And just to show you what is
going on.
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| 00:21:18 | Let's take a look at what is
happening.
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| 00:21:24 | Visibility is reduced and the
camera will go out and come back
on.
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| 00:21:28 | Very windy conditions.
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| 00:21:31 | It is galloping conductors.
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| 00:21:33 | The heavy wet snow on those
power lines and the wind blowing
around then knocked together and
not the power out.
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| 00:21:41 | They bring power lines down.
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| 00:21:44 | This keeps going and and out.
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| 00:21:45 | This gives you the idea this is
a treacherous situation.
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| 00:21:50 | Lake shore drive is closed
because of a very hazardous
driving conditions.
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| 00:21:55 | Let's talk more about the ohio
river valley where you see the
tank.
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| 00:22:00 | That is where we have I stand
for new york city, is this a
small event?
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| 00:22:06 | Looks like an icy event expected
there.
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| 00:22:09 | Ice accumulation expected during
the overnight and morning hours
that the temperature is expected
to reach above the freezing mark
there as we go into the
afternoon.
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| 00:22:19 | By then we may have seemed a
number of power outages for
their region as well.
|
| 00:22:24 | Want to show you what is
producing this.
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| 00:22:28 | Add area of low pressure, very
cold air associated with this as
low pressure is trekking across
the midwest toward the ohio
river valley region.
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| 00:22:38 | Ahead of that we will see that
moderating temperatures
situation.
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| 00:22:44 | It is essentially going to be an
icy conditions ahead of the
storm.
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| 00:22:49 | Behind the storm, we are looking
at snow and blowing snow.
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| 00:22:53 | The airports in the midwest.
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| 00:22:55 | We saw some occasional closures
over the previous 24 hours as we
go into the daylight hours, it
will be sluggish.
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| 00:23:03 | We will have to keep you updated
on that and talk with your
airline to see if your
particular flight is going out
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| 00:27:07 | >> I want to check back in with
nic robertson in alexandria,
egypt with reports of shootings
and injuries.
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| 00:27:11 | Nic, when did the shooting
happen?
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| 00:27:17 | >> Reporter: A couple of hours
ago, piers.
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| 00:27:20 | The protestors, anti-mubarak
protestors were in martin square
and they say this group of pro
mubarak supporters came up with
sticks and big knives and
attacked them.
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| 00:27:33 | They called on the army to come
in and transport out the
problem.
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| 00:27:36 | The army came in, in their
tanks, fired shots in the air.
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| 00:27:40 | The pro mubarak supporters
backed off.
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| 00:27:42 | But by the time all that
happened, according to the
people 12 people were injured,
one man had his pelvis broken in
that melee.
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| 00:27:53 | >> It has to be a danger, that
if this continues and the crowds
continue, maybe even grow in
size, that mubarak's people will
come out in larger numbers, too,
and we could start to see the
violence that we so far
thankfully mainly have avoided.
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| 00:28:15 | >> Reporter: Yeah, it was
interesting.
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| 00:28:18 | Today a man came up and said i
want to talk to you right out
there in the open when there
were plenty of other protestors
trying to bring mubarak down.
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| 00:28:27 | He told me, I support president
mubarak.
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| 00:28:30 | He should stay on as long as he
wants in power.
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| 00:28:32 | I said, aren't you afraid of
saying this in front of all this
people?
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| 00:28:36 | He said no, I'm not.
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| 00:28:38 | So we're beginning to hear
voices like that.
|
| 00:28:42 | In the demonstration today, a
man said we want mubarak to go,
but not quite yet.
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| 00:28:50 | We want this careful transition
of power.
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| 00:28:53 | We want the elections, we want
them soon.
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| 00:28:56 | We want him to speak, and there
is this real concern that if
this transition doesn't happen
smoothly, you're going to get
more outbreaks of trouble like
this.
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| 00:29:07 | That's even before you have all
the divisions between all these
different opposition groups
bubbling up to the surface,
piers.
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| 00:29:14 | >> Thanks for that report, and
thanks for your outstanding
journalism.
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| 00:29:19 | And please stay safe.
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| 00:29:24 | That's all for us tonight.
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| 00:29:25 | com for
the latest breaking weather news
and major developments from
egypt.
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| 00:29:31 | Tomorrow, a special edition, my
live sitdown with barbara
walters.
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| 00:29:38 | She's interviewed everybody who
is anybody and tomorrow I am
interviewing her.
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| 00:29:43 | Now here is anderson cooper with
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anderson?
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| 00:29:49 | >>> Piers, thank you very much.
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| 00:29:51 | Good evening, everyone.
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| 00:29:52 | We are live in cairo yet again
tonight.
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| 00:29:55 | And what a day and night it has
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