| 00:01:14 | >>> Day of reckoning.
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| 00:01:17 | Protesters surged into tahrir
square.
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| 00:01:20 | Will they march to the
presidential palace today to
take mubarak out?
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| 00:01:25 | We'll be live in cairo.
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| 00:01:26 | want in
a post mubarak egypt and what
will it get?
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| 00:01:33 | And numbers just in.
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| 00:01:34 | A big drop in the unemployment
rate.
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| 00:01:38 | Down to 9%, but the economy
actually added fewer jobs than
it has in the last four months.
|
| 00:01:42 | Another perplexing jobs report.
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| 00:01:44 | Good morning, everyone.
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| 00:01:45 | IT'S FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 4th, 2011.
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| 00:01:48 | >> Huge weather impact appears
on to be the jobs report.
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| 00:01:52 | 00 in cairo, where
tens of thousands of people have
filled liberation square for
what they're calling president
mubarak's day of departure.
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| 00:02:02 | These are almost all
antigovernment protesters.
|
| 00:02:07 | Some pro mubarak supporters have
been seen nearby, but there's
been no violence so far.
|
| 00:02:12 | The white house stepping up
talks with egyptian officials
about forming some sort of a
caretaker government once
mubarak is gone.
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| 00:02:21 | Mubarak said last night, he is
fed up being president, but has
no intention of leaving before
september.
|
| 00:02:29 | They have brought in tanks and
razor wire.
|
| 00:02:37 | Admiral mullen says american
officials are in close contact
urging the egyptian army to keep
the peace.
|
| 00:02:43 | >> Discussions I've had, they
have reassured me they have no
intent to fire on their on
people.
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| 00:02:52 | From yesterday, it's an evolving
situation that we hope just can
continue to evolve peacefully so
the egyptian people can end up
with the government that they
want.
|
| 00:03:07 | >> This has been among the
single most contact that has
done and most frequently.
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| 00:03:11 | >> Well, the ties are there.
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| 00:03:13 | It's clear and have been clear
is ing
that the military will be able
to revolve this crisis or
oversee this orderly transition.
|
| 00:03:25 | Two dozen journalists have been
detained over the last day or so
as a result of that media
crackdown.
|
| 00:03:33 | A watchdog group said they have
herd heard of 20 or more
incidents where they have been
attacked.
|
| 00:03:45 | Al jazeera says the website has
been attacked by hackers.
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| 00:03:52 | Ron, good morning.
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| 00:03:52 | Tell us what you can.
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| 00:03:55 | >> Good morning to you.
|
| 00:03:57 | Yes, we're driving through cairo
if I have to put the phone down,
it's because we may have come to
a check point or something.
|
| 00:04:06 | Yes, we are being very careful
about how we work here and
trying get to, from areas we
want to see and report about.
|
| 00:04:14 | There hasn't been the violence
today that there was yesterday.
|
| 00:04:22 | The atmosphere in the square is
completely different than
yesterday certainly.
|
| 00:04:26 | The military is playing a much
more prominent role now and
clearly trying to organize the
protests and not being
confrontational with the
antigovernment protesters, but
it's a very tense situation
because any, anything can
perhaps set off or ignite some
kind of confrontation.
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| 00:04:48 | It's a very dense place.
|
| 00:04:51 | Driving around the city when you
pass the check points, for
example, there are some manned
by police and some -- and
seemingly in charge or being
allowed to exert their will as
they try to defend their
neighborhoods or just take
charge of the situation.
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| 00:05:08 | So, a good day in the square
would appear based on what I'm
hearing, I can tell you I don't
have an eyewitness account of
that at the moment, but beyond
there, and it's still a very
volatile place.
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| 00:05:22 | Still difficult to move around.
|
| 00:05:24 | A place where ordinary people
are really suffering.
|
| 00:05:26 | We talked to people in
neighborhoods, shopping malls,
doors are closed.
|
| 00:05:31 | People are talking about how
difficult it is to get cash.
|
| 00:05:35 | Basic essentials in some areas.
|
| 00:05:37 | We've seen fuel lines have
stretched for 20 or 30 cars.
|
| 00:05:41 | And things of that nature, so
it's a difficult place for
people, difficult place for us.
|
| 00:05:52 | But the story is not about the
journalists, it's about standing
up to the government.
|
| 00:05:58 | The government appears to be
defiant and trying to make
gestures to appease divide and
the opposition and stay in
power.
|
| 00:06:04 | >> Ron, there have been some
talk that today would be a day
they'd march on one of the
presidential palaces or perhaps
in cairo.
|
| 00:06:13 | Have you heard anything, seen
anything?
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| 00:06:17 | Is there even more security
surrounding where mubarak is
residing than there has been
earlier this week?
|
| 00:06:22 | >> Marching to the palaces or
beyond the square as a practical
matter is not going happen, i
don't think.
|
| 00:06:30 | Lodgistically, we're taking
quite a distance.
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| 00:06:32 | A distance that would require
the marchers to go through the
city, down a number of streets
and at this point, it appears
that the army has the
demonstrators contained.
|
| 00:06:42 | Everyone who is approaching the
square is being searched.
|
| 00:06:45 | Some are being turned away and
diverted.
|
| 00:06:49 | So, it doesn't appear to be a
situation where people could
move freely.
|
| 00:06:53 | If they did that, it would, i
think, be seen as provocative
and the military might
aggressively try to stop that
from happening.
|
| 00:07:05 | At this point, the marnlers are
confined to the square.
|
| 00:07:08 | Again, it appears as i
understand, to be orderly, which
is a good thing all around
because violence is not going to
help either side.
|
| 00:07:18 | You would not think, but again,
the government seems to have the
military in particular seem to
have things under control for
now, but things here change
rapidly.
|
| 00:07:26 | >> And they do, indeed.
|
| 00:07:29 | Ron allen inairo.
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| 00:07:35 | >> This morning, spum leaders
says it supports those
supporting the egyptian
government and called for an
islamic state to take its place.
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| 00:07:43 | That talk is adding to growing
an site.
|
| 00:07:50 | Egyptyria and jordan are now
facing political upheaval.
|
| 00:07:56 | What are we hearing from the
israeli government?
|
| 00:08:02 | I've heard some undiplomatic
language about how scared they
are about what's going on.
|
| 00:08:08 | What do we hear today?
|
| 00:08:09 | >> Reporter: Definitely.
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| 00:08:11 | In many cases, the israeli
public was waiting to hear that,
kind of to give voice to the
fear that is they have.
|
| 00:08:17 | We hear a lot of this
prediction, too, that syria is
going to be the next egypt.
|
| 00:08:21 | That egypt is going to become
the next iran and this week,
benjamin netanyahu told
parliament he's worried egypt is
going to become the next gaza.
|
| 00:08:31 | So you kind of see this web of
tension there.
|
| 00:08:33 | You mentioned that iran has
weighed in in favor of the
antigovernment movement there,
the protesters and saying that
this is inevitably going to lead
to a more islamic middle east.
|
| 00:08:44 | You know, hamas told us the
exact same thing this week.
|
| 00:08:48 | They said no matter what, the
new government of egypt is going
to allow for a more significant
role of groups like the muslim
brotherhood and that is going to
unify the middle east.
|
| 00:08:59 | They feel that part of that
unification is going to be
against peace with israel and
or european
influence in the region.
|
| 00:09:08 | They also felt that the new
government there is going to be
a political backing for hamas in
gaza and that would force israel
eventually to make the situation
better for the palestinian
people.
|
| 00:09:21 | So not exactly great groundwork
for talk of peace or further
agreements.
|
| 00:09:28 | >> Michelle kosinski in tel aviv
watching the story.
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| 00:09:30 | Thank you.
|
| 00:09:31 | Other big story we're following
today, the labor department just
out with the first jobs report
of 2011 and in it, the
unemployment rate fell sharply
to 9.5%.
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| 00:09:43 | Is isn't all good news.
|
| 00:09:45 | In fact, the numbers out this
morning show a net gain of just
36,000 nonfarm payrolls in
january.
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| 00:09:52 | The fewest in four months.
|
| 00:09:55 | Far from being enough to keep up
with population growth.
|
| 00:09:58 | Far lower than most estimates
were.
|
| 00:10:01 | The household survey also shows
8 million americans have left
the workforce.
|
| 00:10:08 | One of those perplexing jobs
reports where they seems to be
good news.
|
| 00:10:13 | Behind the numbers, it's not all
good.
|
| 00:10:15 | >> By the way, the math on this
is quite frustrating because you
hear it's going to take 250,000
jobs to lower the unemployment
rate.
|
| 00:10:26 | There's always odd math going
on.
|
| 00:10:27 | >> Part of it is because the way
they calculate the unemployment
rate, it's who is looking for
work and sometimes a lower
unemployment rate actually
reflects people giving up.
|
| 00:10:38 | >> Shouldn't be predicting.
|
| 00:10:40 | It's a very tough number to
calculate.
|
| 00:10:43 | >>> Coming up, we're going to
return live to cairo on a day
that may be a turning point if
the country and region.
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| 00:10:52 | President mubarak now says he
can't step down until september,
but the protesters aren't going
anywhere either.
|
| 00:10:57 | After 11 days of unrest, what
will today hold?
|
| 00:11:00 | >> Plus, a new campaign of
intimidation in egypt.
|
| 00:11:04 | The crackdown on journalists
ahead.
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president's schedule.
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| 00:14:47 | >>> In tahrir scare for what
their calling a day of
departure.
|
| 00:14:53 | The scene appears peaceful at
this hour.
|
| 00:14:55 | >> Earlier, mobs of mubarak
supporters targeted foreign
journalists beating them with
sticks and fists.
|
| 00:15:02 | Journalists has been detained.
|
| 00:15:08 | Equipment's been destroyed.
|
| 00:15:09 | Hillary clinton condemned that
violence yesterday.
|
| 00:15:10 | >> This is a violation of
international norms that
guarantees freedom of the press
and it is unacceptable under any
circumstances.
|
| 00:15:22 | >> Washington bureau chief for
alarabia television.
|
| 00:15:30 | Today, a stark difference than
the day before.
|
| 00:15:35 | Obviously, the mubarak forces
decided to back off.
|
| 00:15:36 | Is this the army taking a bigger
role here and almost pushing
back?
|
| 00:15:41 | >> It was interesting that the
minister of defense was there to
examine the situation.
|
| 00:15:46 | We heard report there is concern
within the ruling class of the
regime, that the army intervene,
they would be a reaction on the
part of the national guard,
which is under the control of
mubarak.
|
| 00:16:03 | So I think people in the army
are trying avoid bloodshed.
|
| 00:16:09 | Before they can ease mubarak
out.
|
| 00:16:13 | I would argue there people in
the united states who will
not -- whose days are numbered
in the eyes of many egyptians.
|
| 00:16:29 | So, you have this international
pressure.
|
| 00:16:32 | Probably the make up of a deal
are there.
|
| 00:16:34 | I'm not sure if as an interim
leader would be acceptable to a
lot of people, but if you bring
in other personalities, judges,
I think the egyptian society is
full of people who can supervise
this massive transition and
prepare the states for
elections, create space where
you have parties competing to
prevent the emergence of
islamists and the brotherhood as
the main political party in
egypt.
|
| 00:17:09 | >> If you just take a step back
and look at what's happened over
the last 11 days or so, there's
remarkable inconsistency, one
day, it's the goon squad they
call them.
|
| 00:17:25 | Then you have a day where
they're going after journalists.
|
| 00:17:28 | Then one day of calm.
|
| 00:17:31 | What do you make of that?
|
| 00:17:32 | >> It looks like there are more
than one center of power.
|
| 00:17:36 | You have the goons terrorizing
eem in the streets including
journalists then you have the
prime minister apologizing and
asking for investigation.
|
| 00:17:49 | Denounced yesterday -- which is
conspiracy.
|
| 00:17:56 | The army did not fire a shot
against them, so you have this
kind of built-in tension within
the ruling group and there will
be officers who think about
their own future.
|
| 00:18:07 | Who think about their own perks.
|
| 00:18:09 | Who think that the relationship
with the united states.
|
| 00:18:11 | This is not iran 2009.
|
| 00:18:14 | Iran is isolated already.
|
| 00:18:16 | They don't care about the
reaction of the egyptian regime
because they have to think about
investment --
>> they have something to lose.
|
| 00:18:25 | >> They are not going to --
>> another person that showed up
today is amir hue san.
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| 00:18:32 | The head of the arab lead.
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| 00:18:34 | Was the foreign minister in the
mubarak government.
|
| 00:18:38 | I know a lot of american
journalists, we talk about
elbaradei because we know him,
we've interacted with him in
some form or another, but he's
probably not the guy that could
put something together.
|
| 00:18:51 | Is it moussa?
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| 00:18:54 | >> I saw moussa in davos.
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| 00:19:04 | And maybe he should be the next
president of egypt.
|
| 00:19:08 | Later on, moussa went back to
cairo and said I'm ready to be a
candidate if the egyptian people
want me.
|
| 00:19:16 | He is popular.
|
| 00:19:17 | Sometimes speaks the language of
the street.
|
| 00:19:19 | He's a bit on the wreckless
side, but he's very well-known
there and I like elbaradei.
|
| 00:19:27 | I think he would be one of the
figures to watch.
|
| 00:19:32 | >> Good to have you.
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| 00:19:33 | Thank you.
|
| 00:19:34 | >>> We're going to continue to
follow the developments out of
egypt today.
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| 00:23:38 | >>> Fan rs starting to head to
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| 00:23:42 | >> If they can get there, by the
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| 00:23:44 | It's been tough for those used
to green bay and pittsburgh.
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| 00:23:47 | The weather will feel a lot like
home.
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| 00:23:50 | Wednesday, the coldest day in
dallas in 20 years.
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| 00:23:53 | More snow is expected between
now and game time.
|
| 00:23:57 | Let's get a preview of the big
day with darren rovell.
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| 00:24:03 | >> In his snow outfit, too.
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| 00:24:06 | >> Apparently, we're covering
the collapse of the metrodome in
minneapolis.
|
| 00:24:13 | Are you in dallas?
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| 00:24:13 | >> I'm not sure.
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| 00:24:14 | Ipg I'm in green bay, chuck.
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| 00:24:15 | This is crazy.
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| 00:24:15 | On tuesday, they had a sheet of
ice come in.
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| 00:24:19 | Apparently, they have never
heard of salt before.
|
| 00:24:21 | Then came the snow on wednesday.
|
| 00:24:23 | The snow last night into the
morning now we have ice pellets,
I believe that's the way you
describe it.
|
| 00:24:30 | It's really started to crimp the
business around here.
|
| 00:24:34 | People who had set up fancy
restaurants, corporate america
are now staying in.
|
| 00:24:42 | I've heard there is a shortage
not only of shovels and
scrapers, but also of heat lamps
and the parties are coming
tonight.
|
| 00:24:50 | People wait online and if you
don't have heat lamps, that can
affect things and finally, we
have the super bowl ticket,
which is around on the secondary
market, about $3500.
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| 00:25:04 | About $2100 to get in.
|
| 00:25:08 | I'm told this morning, inventory
started increasing again.
|
| 00:25:13 | People saying they cannot get to
dallas and that changed things.
|
| 00:25:17 | >> Now, darren, you had an
interesting little conspiracy
theory on twitter.
|
| 00:25:23 | That the rumor is jerry jones
had a stash of tickets and
suddenly, he was flooding the
market with more tickets, both
the standing room onlys and the
ones for seats.
|
| 00:25:40 | >> Or the theory is he still has
tickets.
|
| 00:25:41 | Now, that is just a rumor, and
the nfl does stipulate that the
nfc team and afc team have to
5% each of the tickets,
but you never know about jerry.
|
| 00:25:54 | I will say something though.
|
| 00:25:55 | The standing outside tickets,
for which the face value is $200
for, on stub hub, they told me
the average was $327 for that.
|
| 00:26:05 | >> Darren, let me stop you
there.
|
| 00:26:07 | I don't think people realize
that.
|
| 00:26:09 | I don't think savannah realizes
it.
|
| 00:26:12 | You have to be in the parking
lot, correct?
|
| 00:26:14 | >> Right.
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| 00:26:15 | >> You have to pay money, $300,
for the right to simply be in
the parking lot.
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| 00:26:24 | >> Yeah, they were sold in a
package of four for $800.
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| 00:26:30 | It includes four scarfs and four
game programs if that helps.
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| 00:26:36 | I don't know if the sound comes
out of the that stadium, but
it's not better than home.
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| 00:26:42 | I don't know what these people
are doing.
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| 00:26:44 | >> I don't get it.
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| 00:26:46 | I would say it's a washout.
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| 00:26:48 | A snowout at this point.
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| 00:26:50 | >> I wish there was a real hole
in the texas stadium these days.
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| 00:26:56 | It would be kind of fun to give
green bay an advantage.
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| 00:26:58 | >> Looking for the silver
lining.
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| 00:27:00 | Darren rovell, cnbc, thank you.
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| 00:27:01 | >>> Up next, the jobs report.
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| 00:27:04 | Unemployment is down to 9% flat.
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| 00:27:06 | Sounds like good news, but is it
really?
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| 00:27:09 | And speaking of the weather,
what does the weather have to do
with the jobs report?
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| 00:27:14 | We're going to ask the experts.
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| 00:27:15 | >>> Plus, will he or won't he?
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| 00:30:52 | >>> Bottom of the hour, let's
see what's driving friday.
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| 00:30:55 | >> Well, today, what may be a
turning point on day 11 of huge
protests in egypt, tens of
thousands of demonstrators are
in liberation square calling
today the day of departure,
demanding an immediate end to
president mubarak's rule.
|
| 00:31:12 | This afternoon, president obama
will answer questions from
reporters for the first time in
a week on the situation in
egypt.
|
| 00:31:18 | He holds a press availability
with the leader of canada later
today.
|
| 00:31:23 | Stephen harper is at the white
house for a day of meetings.
|
| 00:31:26 | And the opening bell just rang
on wall street.
|
| 00:31:28 | It's the labor department
reports a sharp drop in
unemployment.
|
| 00:31:36 | >>> Other stories making
headlines, nbc news confirms
that mark kelly, the husband of
gabrielle giffords, will command
the space shuttle "endeavour"
mission in april.
|
| 00:31:47 | He is expected to make the
official announcement this
afternoon.
|
| 00:31:51 | >>> A new senate report finds
that the army and fbi missed
warning signs that could have
presented the 2009 shooting
rampage at ft. hood.
|
| 00:32:00 | The report outlined intelligence
breakdowns including the fbi's
failure that the suspect was
e-mailing with a radical claric
in yemen.
|
| 00:32:16 | >>> Racial minorities accounted
for -- the population growth.
|
| 00:32:23 | Also found that new orleans'
population shrunk in the wake of
hurricane katrina.
|
| 00:32:27 | That city is now 30% smaller
than in 2000.
|
| 00:32:31 | >>> Police in north carolina
have arrested a suspect in the
overnight hijacking of a
greyhound bus.
|
| 00:32:36 | The suspect allegedly boarded
the bus with a gun and forced
the driver to drive to a nearby
gas station where the suspect
was taken into custody.
|
| 00:32:44 | All 35 passengers on the bus are
safe.
|
| 00:32:46 | >>> Well, in cairo, liberation
square is overflowing now with
peaceful crowds calling for
president mubarak to resign an
resign today.
|
| 00:32:55 | >> Behind the scenes,
pro mubarak supporters continue
to wage a crackdown on
journalists.
|
| 00:33:06 | Graham wood was dragged from his
car yesterday and accused of
spying.
|
| 00:33:12 | He joins us from egypt by phone.
|
| 00:33:16 | Describe the scene today, the
reports we're getting much
different than yesterday.
|
| 00:33:21 | >> Yes, yesterday, there was
really -- it did not look good
at the beginning.
|
| 00:33:28 | And it was an atmosphere of
intimidation of journalists all
over.
|
| 00:33:33 | Today, it was really jubilant
and celebrate.
|
| 00:33:49 | There were friday prayers, which
brought a large contingent of
muslim brotherhood.
|
| 00:33:55 | >> We were struck to see the
defense minister's visit to
tahrir square earlier today.
|
| 00:34:00 | >> The military were basically
helping out as people wanted, if
people wanted to attend.
|
| 00:34:07 | They were making sure that
journalists didn't bring in
cameras.
|
| 00:34:12 | But other than that, they were
maintaining a very orderly
atmosphere and we're helping to
keep it skeer as of just one day
before was the territory of rock
throwing, pro mubarak
supporters.
|
| 00:34:27 | >> And obviously today, a couple
days ago, the assumption was
that some of these protesters
were going to march on the
presidential palace.
|
| 00:34:36 | None of that appears to be
happening today?
|
| 00:34:38 | >> There doesn't seem to be any
appetite for marching on the
presidential palace.
|
| 00:34:43 | There was so much optimism i
sensed in the square that i
think a lot of people just
wanted to ride that out.
|
| 00:34:51 | It had demonstrated so much
commitment for the people there
that that was good enough for
now.
|
| 00:34:57 | >> All right, graeme wood from
the the atlantic, good to have
you, keep in touch.
|
| 00:35:03 | >>> Let's move on to the jobs
report.
|
| 00:35:05 | There's a little bit of a
conflicting number from the
labor department on jobs.
|
| 00:35:10 | >> The unemployment rate is down
to 9%, but job creation came
nearly to a halt in january.
|
| 00:35:15 | The economy added only 36,000
nonfarm jobs.
|
| 00:35:22 | Here to explain, mark zandi,
steve liesman.
|
| 00:35:27 | I know you've got a couple other
things you might have to jump
off to.
|
| 00:35:32 | The private payroll says one
thing this week.
|
| 00:35:35 | Seemed like it was going to be a
good number, then the government
data, seems like we get this
every e every month.
|
| 00:35:41 | >> I was hoping you were going
to start with mark so I could
listen to what he had to say.
|
| 00:35:47 | What did that guy say in
airplane, he picked the wrong
day to stop whatever he was
doyne.
|
| 00:35:50 | There's a lot of conflicting
data here.
|
| 00:35:53 | On balance, there's a really
nasty top line number, that
really meager gain in jobs.
|
| 00:35:59 | Just 36,000 for an economy that
should be creating 150, 200,000
a month.
|
| 00:36:07 | But inside, you have that huge
unemployment rate and a nice
increase in average hourly
earnings, so people who are
4% more on
the month.
|
| 00:36:17 | That's a good number.
|
| 00:36:18 | And also, outside of what can be
sort of weatd
industries, we did see some
decent job gain.
|
| 00:36:29 | One of the things that could be
explaining this, lousy weather
in places that don't normally
get it and so, it can't be
adjusted for in the data.
|
| 00:36:40 | >> All right, well now let's
test it out with mark zandi.
|
| 00:36:45 | What's your take on it?
|
| 00:36:46 | Do you think it's weather
related?
|
| 00:36:47 | >> Well, I'm so glad you started
with steve.
|
| 00:36:51 | Got it right.
|
| 00:36:52 | Yeah, I do.
|
| 00:36:53 | Yeah, I think weather is all
over this report.
|
| 00:36:55 | We saw big declines in
construction.
|
| 00:36:59 | Big declines in transportation.
|
| 00:37:00 | Big declines in leisure and
hospitality.
|
| 00:37:07 | The weather's always bad in
january, but this was a really
bad january.
|
| 00:37:12 | About as bad as it gets in terms
of storms and how cold it was.
|
| 00:37:18 | If you pull back and abstract
from the weather affects, i
think underlying job growth is
probably somewhere, 125, 150,000
per month.
|
| 00:37:29 | That's the number of jobs we
need just to maintain the stable
rate of unemployment.
|
| 00:37:38 | That's progress compared to
where we are a year or two ago.
|
| 00:37:41 | We need to see businesses step
up.
|
| 00:37:43 | >> Let me follow up with you on
that.
|
| 00:37:45 | Sometimes, we see this number
drop because of previous months
numbers being adjusted.
|
| 00:37:52 | How much adjustment was there in
the last quarter?
|
| 00:37:54 | >> Well, there was a lot of
adjustment, there was some
positive revisions to the data,
so in the month of december and
november, the jobs gains were
actually a little bit better
than anticipated.
|
| 00:38:09 | If you throw that into the mix,
it makes the numbers look a
little better.
|
| 00:38:16 | 25
million private sector jobs
since the bottom of employment
last spring.
|
| 00:38:22 | That's just barely enough to
keep the unemployment rate where
it is.
|
| 00:38:26 | I think american businesses are
doing a lot better.
|
| 00:38:30 | Profits are up.
|
| 00:38:30 | I talked to a lot of business
people.
|
| 00:38:32 | They're feeling better.
|
| 00:38:36 | Sentiment is stronger.
|
| 00:38:37 | I think by the spring, summer,
we should be getting some
improved job numbers and at that
point, unemployment will be
mover lower in a definitive way.
|
| 00:38:46 | >> Steve liesman, what do you
make of this in light of what
bernanke says?
|
| 00:38:52 | You can't really say is recovery
is truly established until you
see these jobs figures get
better.
|
| 00:38:59 | >> Was that for steve or me?
|
| 00:39:00 | >> I think we lost steve's mike.
|
| 00:39:04 | Mark, you can have that one.
|
| 00:39:06 | I think we lost steve.
|
| 00:39:07 | >> Well, you know, I think
chairman bernanke is being
cautious.
|
| 00:39:13 | He is still engaged in a zero
interest rate policy.
|
| 00:39:16 | He's engaged in what's known as
quantitative easing, so he needs
to be cautious to explain why
he's been so aggressive.
|
| 00:39:25 | I think it's appropriate that he
is.
|
| 00:39:27 | But if you listen to sort of the
tone of his speech yesterday, it
was more positive and I think
he's also beginning to feel
better about the economy's
prospects.
|
| 00:39:41 | January was a tough month to
read anything because of
weather.
|
| 00:39:42 | I think by the spring, we'll get
numbers that will give us a
better sense of what's going on.
|
| 00:39:47 | >> Mark zandi and steve
liesman -- we swear we didn't
cut off your mike.
|
| 00:39:57 | Thaun, both.
|
| 00:39:58 | >>> Our trivia question.
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| 00:40:00 | We asked in the 112th congress,
four pairs of senators share the
same last time.
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| 00:40:07 | Scott brown and sherrod brown.
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| 00:40:09 | Ron johnson and tim johnson.
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| 00:40:11 | >> No relation.
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| 00:40:12 | >> Bill nelson and ben nelson.
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| 00:40:17 | And ben and tom udall.
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| 00:40:19 | We can take this a step further.
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| 00:40:25 | Henry reid and jack reed.
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| 00:40:32 | >> I love it when you do your --
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| 00:40:37 | >>> Coming up, the obama
administration working the
options to ease mubarak out of
power.
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| 00:40:42 | is doing behind
the scenes to bring the chaos in
egypt to an end.
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| 00:40:47 | >>> But first, it's friday.
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| 00:44:16 | It was on this day in 1789,
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| 00:44:23 | Washington was elected
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| 00:44:32 | Only 538 of them, still today,
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| 00:44:35 | >>> Let's move on with the
transition to take place in
egypt to begin now.
|
| 00:44:42 | The white house has been
floodinging the zone by
president biden, placed a call
to vice president suleiman
yesterday.
|
| 00:44:51 | Leaders have called mubarak
pressing him to step down soon.
|
| 00:44:54 | >> One of the proposals being
, a
government led by suleiman.
|
| 00:45:07 | Anne kornblut and steve clemens
joins us.
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| 00:45:10 | Anne, I'll start with you.
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| 00:45:12 | There has been reporting about
proposals is administration is
considering.
|
| 00:45:17 | Is it wrong to say there's any
one option or that there's a
-backed plan singular that
they're trying to get the
egyptians to sign on to?
|
| 00:45:29 | On the other hand, it feels like
the makings of the solution.
|
| 00:45:38 | >> "The new york times" saying
last night they were working
back channels to get mubarak to
leave.
|
| 00:45:45 | They said this is only one of
many things on the table.
|
| 00:45:47 | We've been hearing for days that
this would be their preferred
solution.
|
| 00:45:52 | They're obviously talking to him
now.
|
| 00:45:55 | The last thing they want to be
seen is someone forcing his
hand.
|
| 00:45:59 | They've been careful now for
almost two weeks to make sure
whatever happens in egyptian is
going to be egypt's call.
|
| 00:46:09 | >> We put together kind of
mantage of the administration's
response.
|
| 00:46:18 | >> Our assessment is that the
egyptian government is stable.
|
| 00:46:21 | >> Mubarak has been an ally of
ours.
|
| 00:46:25 | I think it would be, I would not
refer to him as a dictator.
|
| 00:46:28 | >> Orderly transition must be
meaningful.
|
| 00:46:33 | It must be peaceful.
|
| 00:46:33 | And it must begin now.
|
| 00:46:36 | >> I want to be clear.
|
| 00:46:37 | This is though we are in the
here and now, now started
yesterday.
|
| 00:46:41 | Now means now.
|
| 00:46:42 | >> You know, steve, what's
interesting here, you hear some
conflicting reports about is
mubarak not taking our advice or
in his mind, taking our advice?
|
| 00:46:53 | I'm told ambassador went with
him and in mubarak's mind, he
agreed for both.
|
| 00:46:58 | Not to run --
>> not to run in september.
|
| 00:47:02 | >> Make sure his son doesn't
run.
|
| 00:47:04 | >> He didn't say, go now.
|
| 00:47:06 | >> That was not the message four
days ago.
|
| 00:47:08 | Now, it's changed.
|
| 00:47:09 | >> It's changed.
|
| 00:47:10 | President mubarak and the people
around him think they're making
in our direction -- for them.
|
| 00:47:18 | On our clock, they're moving
about as slowly as one can
imagine and they continue to put
forth plans that show this is
the mubarak team that's been
promoted in the past and that
the public in the streets
doesn't see any real change, so
what's really in dispute is the
clock and I also think that
mubarak himself thinks that he
is ak wii esing to what the west
asked him to do and I think you
really see it play lesson in
selective perception.
|
| 00:47:49 | >> And we will hear from the
president.
|
| 00:47:54 | And see what he has to say on
friday about whether, when,
mubarak should go.
|
| 00:48:02 | Behind the scenes, they're
pretty open and saying we would
like him to leave sooner rather
than later, but they're still
sticking to this public line of
trying not to publy humiliate
him.
|
| 00:48:19 | >> A week and a half ago, they
were not letting this be known.
|
| 00:48:25 | This was not the time frame, so
and what we saw when the
president came out earlier in
the week, they all turned on the
television, watched it together.
|
| 00:48:39 | This is really hour by hour for
them.
|
| 00:48:43 | I would wonder if they know
right now what he might say
later today.
|
| 00:48:47 | >> Secretary clinton is headed
to munich for a security
conference.
|
| 00:48:51 | I think the foreign minister of
turkey is going to be there, but
turkey's been already on board
with saying, mubarak must go.
|
| 00:48:59 | Can we expect something out of
here that might be a united
international front?
|
| 00:49:04 | >> I think she's going to work
hard.
|
| 00:49:06 | I think this is the cause of the
moment.
|
| 00:49:08 | I think she's going to work and
try to coordinate messages and
make sure, particularly turkey
is such a vital, strategic
nation.
|
| 00:49:21 | I think it really matters.
|
| 00:49:22 | As anne said, the real change
for the administration is it
wanted to be about principles,
about universal rights of
people, no violence and
transition.
|
| 00:49:30 | Not about personalities.
|
| 00:49:31 | Now, you see the shift, about
who's in charge and sending a
very different signal.
|
| 00:49:38 | We've gotten behind the
principles part of this now and
I think hillary clinton is going
to be out there trying to make
that happen.
|
| 00:49:45 | We need to move him out of his
position because from a league
perspective, they can't do what
they need to do to bring in
other parts are get
polls by september unless they
have the powers of the
presidency unleashed to change
the law.
|
| 00:50:00 | People aren't talking about
this.
|
| 00:50:01 | There are all sorts of structure
problems to achieve fair and
free elections in egypt.
|
| 00:50:07 | >> And can you detect any kind
of regret from the obama
administration for not being
more forward leaning in its
rhetoric?
|
| 00:50:17 | In fairness, who could have
foreseen this?
|
| 00:50:20 | But in 2009 when he gave that
speech to cairo?
|
| 00:50:23 | >> Well, they're not big on
regret, as you know.
|
| 00:50:27 | They will point to the section
of that cairo speech where he
talks about democracy and the
fact that it doesn't happen in a
straight line and right now,
when it looks like it's going in
that direction, they're to some
extent taking credit for obama
having said that in the speech.
|
| 00:50:42 | We'll see where things lined up.
|
| 00:50:46 | They don't want to be taking
credit.
|
| 00:50:56 | >> Steve, quickly, we're seeing
the first set of finger pointing
internally and it's all going at
the intelligence committee.
|
| 00:51:05 | Who lost ee gift?
|
| 00:51:06 | Where was our intelligence on
the ground here?
|
| 00:51:08 | Is this clat classic washington
loor for a --
>> it's what we live for.
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| 00:51:13 | There is a little real.
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| 00:51:14 | I think the thing is when you
don't see a financial crisis,
you should ask why didn't we see
a financial crisis?
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| 00:51:25 | If you see one of t largest
strategic shifts, this is not
just about egypt and they kaenlt
make a plan just about egypt.
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| 00:51:32 | We have the same protests going
on in sear I couldn't say ya,
yemen, obviously.
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| 00:51:40 | So this is something they have
to look at and that requires
better intelligence.
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| 00:51:47 | >> We have to leave it there.
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| 00:51:51 | Thank you.
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