| 00:00:00 | About japan.
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| 00:00:01 | It's already on the topic.
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| 00:00:02 | >> Bill: "The o'reilly factor"
is on.
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| 00:00:03 | Tonight:
>> Bill: The death toll in japan
now expected to reach more than
10,000 and it could get far
worse if the nuclear power
plants melt down.
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| 00:00:21 | We'll have the very latest from
the earthquake scene and report
extensively on the nuclear
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| 00:01:10 | The factor begins right now.
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| 00:01:23 | >> Bill: Hi, I'm bill o'reilly.
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| 00:01:24 | Thanks for watching us tonight.
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| 00:01:26 | High drama in japan.
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| 00:01:27 | That is the subject of this
evening's talking points memo.
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| 00:01:30 | Amazing new video coming out of
japan tonight showing the
devastating tsunami that swept
inland as much as three miles
destroying everything in its
path.
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| 00:01:42 | This tape was shot above a small
town where residents had fled
after being warned that the
water was coming.
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| 00:01:49 | The shocked people watched as
their homes and possessions were
destroyed.
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| 00:01:59 | [Crying]
>> Bill: It is estimated that
more than 10,000 people have
been killed.
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| 00:02:09 | And the damage estimate could
reach $50 billion.
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| 00:02:15 | The bank of japan is pouring
money into the area to help
banks and financial institutions
that were destroyed.
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| 00:02:20 | Millions of japanese are without
power tonight, without water,
without food.
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| 00:02:25 | And temperatures are near
freezing in the quake area.
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| 00:02:29 | Almost a half million people are
living in shelters as thousands
have been evacuated because of
the nuclear danger.
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| 00:02:36 | Now, on that front, four nuclear
power plants were damaged by the
quake.
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| 00:02:41 | And one is close to melting down
this evening.
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| 00:02:44 | The world has seen pictures of
explosions at that plant.
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| 00:02:47 | More than 1500 people have been
scanned for radiation exposure.
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| 00:02:53 | Almost 200 have been found to be
somewhat contaminated.
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| 00:02:56 | That number includes 17 american
military personnel involved in
relief efforts.
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| 00:03:00 | Authorities say the
contamination is low level and
can be scrubbed off.
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| 00:03:05 | The uss ronald reagan, a
carrier, has been ordered to
leave its position downwind from
the nuclear plants.
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| 00:03:10 | As were other ships from the
seventh fleet.
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| 00:03:13 | So far japan has been spared a
nuclear meltdown but the
situation remains tenuous and
reaction continues to poor --
pour.
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| 00:03:22 | In.
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| 00:03:22 | >> Walls are just shifting back
and forth, up and down.
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| 00:03:25 | Cracks.
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| 00:03:26 | Split goes through the wall.
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| 00:03:27 | >> Did you think you would
survive?
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| 00:03:29 | >> Oh, yeah.
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| 00:03:29 | I knew that.t.
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| 00:03:30 | >> You knew you wouldn't die.
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| 00:03:31 | >> I'm not dying in japan.
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| 00:03:33 | >> Some of those who did escape
before the wave hit returned
today to search for missing
relatives.
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| 00:03:42 | This woman was looking for her
brother.
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| 00:03:45 | But was soon overwhelmed by the
scenes around her.
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| 00:03:54 | [Crying]
>> like all americans, i
continue to be heart broken by
the images of devastation in
japan.
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| 00:04:01 | The american red cross is
leading the private efforts to
help the quake victims and
everyone hopes the death toll
will stabilize.
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| 00:04:07 | Remember, in the asian tsunami
of 2004, more than 200,000
people perished.
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| 00:04:13 | That's the memo.
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| 00:04:14 | Now for the top story tonight,
dealing with the nuke meltdown.
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| 00:04:19 | The president of project
chernobyl which treats people
affected by the disaster there.
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| 00:04:28 | King has covered several nuclear
energy here in the united
states.
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| 00:04:33 | No one knows what the japan
situation is going to be.
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| 00:04:35 | Obviously they are trying their
hardest not to have that plant
meltdown so massive radiation
goes into the air.
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| 00:04:40 | Here in the united states, i
understand we have plants like
those in trouble in japan.
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| 00:04:47 | Is that true?
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| 00:04:48 | >> That is true.
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| 00:04:49 | Most of the nuclear plants in
the united states are in the
eastern part of the united
states.
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| 00:04:54 | But there are two plants in
california that are in very
active seismic zones.
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| 00:05:00 | Dangerous zones that are only
5 magnitude
earthquake.
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| 00:05:06 | >> That's sanafro and where is
the other one.
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| 00:05:10 | >> Diablo cannon.
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| 00:05:11 | >> If the the 9 hit, which is
what the japanese quake is now,
a 9, those plants would be
undergoing exactly what the
japanese plants are undergoing.
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| 00:05:19 | >> It's impossible to say.
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| 00:05:21 | It's also a matter of luck.
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| 00:05:22 | The industry has prepared for a
lot of contingencies.
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| 00:05:26 | But it is possible that it could
happen, absolutely.
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| 00:05:29 | >> Bill: All right.
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| 00:05:29 | So you have go two in the quake
, that's all,
two?
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| 00:05:33 | >> At least two.
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| 00:05:34 | I would have to look at the map
a lot more closely at least two.
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| 00:05:38 | >> Bill: The ones on the east
coast.
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| 00:05:40 | They are rare on the east coast
but not impossible.
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| 00:05:42 | >> Not impossible.
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| 00:05:44 | >> Bill: Are they along the
lines of the japanese or are the
newer ones more stable to
withstand this kind of stuff.
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| 00:05:49 | >> Oldest nuclear plant in the
is indian point here on the
hudson river.
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| 00:05:54 | 8% Of the nation's population
lives within 50 miles of indian
point.
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| 00:05:58 | Indian point is a very old plant
there have been problems there
before.
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| 00:06:01 | So, while it's not in a seismic,
in an active seismic vons, there
nuclear
plants.
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| 00:06:07 | >> Are you confident that they
could -- these plants in the
could survive a terrorist
attack or a calamity of nature
that -- like we are seeing in
japan?
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| 00:06:18 | >> Well, terrorists did use the
hudson river as a navigational
tool on their way to downtown
manhattan.
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| 00:06:26 | >> Bill: If a plane crashed into
that plant hudson would it
withstand.
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| 00:06:30 | >> It's more complicated than
that the domes are thick and
quite fortified there are also
spent fuel rod pools on the
side.
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| 00:06:37 | The spent fuel comes out of
reactor core and goes into pools
that fuel also needs to be kept
cool.
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| 00:06:43 | It's not as volatile as the
fuel.
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| 00:06:46 | >> Bill: It's possible that a
terrorist attack or intrusion
nature could have somewhat the
effect.
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| 00:06:51 | >> It's certainly not
impossible.
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| 00:06:53 | Something we need to worry
about.
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| 00:06:55 | >> Bill: Doctor, have you been
studying the chernobyl victims.
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| 00:06:57 | We hear these 17 servicemen low
level radiation is there any
such thing as low level.
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| 00:07:05 | >> Ininvisible.
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| 00:07:05 | You breathe it in with
contaminated air and water.
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| 00:07:09 | If we have learned one thing
from chernobyl there is a lot
more to learn.
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| 00:07:14 | >> They are deemphasizing,
authorities saying no danger to
these folks scrubbed it off
this, that, and the other thing.
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| 00:07:21 | You are not buying that.
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| 00:07:21 | >> I will give them the benefit
of the doubt.
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| 00:07:24 | If I was a service man, I would
get a check up with my doctor at
home.
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| 00:07:27 | >> Even that's impossible.
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| 00:07:28 | Look what happened with 9/11
with breathing in that debris
and then it comes 7, 8 years
later where they have all kinds
of health problems that's what
you are seeing at chernobyl it
took a long time for the health
problems to develop in some
people there.
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| 00:07:39 | >> Absolutely.
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| 00:07:40 | The other thing to learn is that
the radioactive cloud spread
according to wind current,
according to where the wind
precipitation was.
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| 00:07:51 | It's not like a 20-mile barrier
where everything stops it goes
where it wants to go.
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| 00:07:55 | And the radioactive cloud spread
over the northern hemisphere
after chernobyl.
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| 00:08:01 | Should a disaster happen in
japan, it's not going to be
confined to tokyo.
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| 00:08:06 | >> Bill: If it is a meltdown of
chernobyl like proportions
which, of course, it isn't yet.
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| 00:08:11 | We have to tell everybody it has
not happened yet so, the
authorities saying japan's low
level rationation has leaked
out.
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| 00:08:19 | Pretty much everybody in the
chernobyl area was affected by
this, right?
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| 00:08:22 | You can't protect yourself
against this.
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| 00:08:23 | >> There were hundreds of people
who died from acute radiation
exposure and tens of millions
low level.
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| 00:08:30 | The one cancer that showed up
years down the line was thyroid
cancer.
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| 00:08:37 | Lots of isotaupes are going to
be around for tens of thousands
of years.
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| 00:08:42 | We don't know what the end
result is going to be.
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| 00:08:45 | >> Bill: This radiation thing is
insidious.
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| 00:08:47 | There is really no way to
protect yourself from it, right?
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| 00:08:50 | >> Can you take iodine pills.
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| 00:08:53 | It will protect yourself in kids
not as much in adults.
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| 00:08:57 | >> Bill: Thank you both for
being here.
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| 00:08:58 | We appreciate it.
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| 00:11:47 | >> Bill: In the hume zone
segment tonight, stock markets
all over the world took huge
hits today because of the
uncertainty in japan.
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| 00:11:52 | The expansion of nuclear power
plants now in question because
the japanese are having trouble
with four of their nuke
facilities.
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| 00:12:01 | Joining us from boca grand,
florida chief political analyst
brit hume.
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| 00:12:05 | Let's take the nuclear issue
first.
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| 00:12:07 | You just heard our first two
experts and you say.
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| 00:12:10 | >> I would say that the
principle political consequence
of this horrible calamity that
has struck the japanese nation
is to retard the nuclear plants
and some
other countries more depend dent
principally germany.
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| 00:12:28 | They get something like 16% of
its power from nuclear.
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| 00:12:31 | Already you are hearing comments
from all over the place in
germany that they should go no
further with this.
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| 00:12:35 | That the old reactors are going
to need to be -- need -- whose
life has been extended need to
be looked at.
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| 00:12:42 | My sense is that the rebirth in
nuclear power in this country
which has been on hold for
almost a quarter of a century
because principally at chernobyl
but also three mile island
although no one, no one has ever
found to have been made sick by
3-mile island.
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| 00:12:56 | 3-Mile island and this japanese
disaster at the nuclear
facilities is likely to destroy
those plants' effectiveness.
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| 00:13:05 | More likely to look like three
mile island than chernobyl.
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| 00:13:09 | >> Bill: Isn't it prudent
though, look, to be realistic,
we are not going to get away
from foreign oil unless we get
an expansion of nuclear power.
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| 00:13:16 | The alternative fuels.
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| 00:13:18 | >> Exactly.
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| 00:13:20 | >> Bill: Alternative fuels are
not going to be ready for
decades on a mass level.
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| 00:13:24 | I think you are right.
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| 00:13:25 | Now people are going uh-oh.
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| 00:13:29 | Saying look, diablo canyon, the
plant here in new york, all
these things are not built to
withstand a slament like a 9 on
a ricter scale earthquake.
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| 00:13:42 | People will say well then we
don't want them.
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| 00:13:44 | It's not worth it not worth
takingance that.
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| 00:13:46 | And you say?
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| 00:13:47 | >> Well, I say that you already
have a significant number of
people who think we can't
tolerate these plants even if
they are working because of the
difficulty in exposing of the
spent fuel.
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| 00:13:59 | You know, we have the site in
nevada which has been so.
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| 00:14:03 | >> Bill: Where do you put it?
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| 00:14:04 | >> It's been resisted although
it appears from all we know
about it to be pretty safe.
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| 00:14:08 | You have to transport it.
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| 00:14:09 | There is already recess tabs to
nuclear power in the united
states.
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| 00:14:12 | It's likely to be intensified.
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| 00:14:13 | When they talk about
withstanding an earthquake.
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| 00:14:19 | What do you mean withstand?
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| 00:14:20 | You mean continue function
properly or have some kind of a
meltdown that would lead to some
massive public health emergency?
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| 00:14:27 | I don't think we have a public
health emergency in japan.
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| 00:14:30 | What we are going to have is a
loss of though the plants which
will be a significant blow of
the recovery from the japanese
unmanageable calamity.
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| 00:14:41 | >> The one plant may go.
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| 00:14:42 | They don't have it under
control.
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| 00:14:44 | It may go up.
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| 00:14:44 | If that happens.
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| 00:14:45 | >> Well it, may.
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| 00:14:46 | But, bill, when you say go up.
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| 00:14:49 | It appears.
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| 00:14:51 | >> Bill: It might meltdown.
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| 00:14:54 | >> Know, but a melt down doesn't
mean you get great plumes of
radioactive material in the
atmosphere.
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| 00:15:00 | Melt down means that the core of
the thing has melted down.
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| 00:15:02 | But that doesn't mean that you
are going to have a massive
escape of radiation into the
atmosphere.
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| 00:15:07 | >> Bill: Certainly could happen.
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| 00:15:08 | That's why they have evacuated.
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| 00:15:10 | >> There is a lot of things that
could happen.
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| 00:15:12 | The worry I have about, this
bill, is that there has been a
considerable amount of coverage
over the past several days about
what could happen.
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| 00:15:19 | There has been, I think, less
about what has happened and what
is likely to happen.
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| 00:15:24 | I think the kind of meltdown we
are talking about sun likely,
not least because you can pump
sea water into these plants to
keep the meltdown from
occurring.
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| 00:15:31 | Sea water is very corrosive to
the plants.
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| 00:15:35 | That's the draw back of that.
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| 00:15:36 | But I don't -- and these plants
in japan are different and
better than the one in chernobyl
which caused a major health
emergency.
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| 00:15:48 | >> Bill: Do you think the media
is whipping this up because the
media has a wested interested in
expanding nuclear power is that
in play here.
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| 00:15:55 | >> Well, maybe.
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| 00:15:57 | Look, the temptation for a
journalist writing about a story
like this is to reach for the
worst case scenarios.
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| 00:16:03 | They are the most news worthy.
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| 00:16:04 | But I will say that, you know,
there was good reporting in the
"new york times" today about
this.
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| 00:16:08 | There was some good reporting in
the "wall street journal" about
this.
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| 00:16:11 | So the -- and you are seeing
some important pieces of good
reporting on this.
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| 00:16:16 | My hope is that people will read
the stories.
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| 00:16:18 | The headlines have been
harrowing.
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| 00:16:21 | So my sense is that if people
read the headlines and think
about, this they won't turn
their backs on nuclear power.
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| 00:16:26 | I'm not very optimistic I must
say.
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| 00:16:29 | >> Bill: People like to be
scared.
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| 00:16:30 | That scaring always sells.
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| 00:16:39 | Bernie goldberg on the
continuing npr controversy.
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| 00:16:43 | Left-wing media pretty much
playing down that big story.
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