| 00:00:00 | Seeking the truth on the massive
budget cuts set to take place in
less than a week.
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| 00:00:06 | >>> What does a butcher shop
have to do with impending budget
cuss?
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| 00:00:12 | >>> Brace yourself, again.
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| 00:00:14 | Parts of the northeast will get
hit by a snowstorm.
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| 00:00:21 | >>> Oscar predictions.
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| 00:00:23 | Who will get the biggest awards?
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| 00:00:25 | One expert will tell you.
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| 00:00:27 | >>> Let's get to what's
happening out there.
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| 00:00:29 | President obama taking aim at
congressional republicans with
six days until the painful,
across the board budget cuts if
no deal can be made.
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| 00:00:42 | >> Are republicans letting cuts
to fall on our kids' schools and
mental health care to protect
corporate loopholes.
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| 00:00:50 | Are they willing to slash
military health care and border
patrol because they refuse to
eliminate tax breaks for big oil
companies.
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| 00:00:59 | Are they seriously prepared to
inflict more pain on the middle
class because they refuse to ask
anything more of those at the
very top?
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| 00:01:06 | >> Republicans are putting the
blame squarely on president
obama.
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| 00:01:12 | This week's republican address.
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| 00:01:15 | >> Republicans in congress right
now will provide the flexibility
to make the necessary spending
reductions and address our
deficit and debt instead of
going through the sequester.
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| 00:01:26 | In fact, house republicans have
already passed two bills to
replace the president's
sequester.
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| 00:01:32 | So the question is, why won't he
work with us?
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| 00:01:36 | The answer quite simply is
because he wants higher taxes.
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| 00:01:40 | >> Joining me now, white house
correspondent for the hill, amie
parnes and ed o'keefe.
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| 00:01:50 | >> Good morning.
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| 00:01:51 | >> We are so close to the
sequester.
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| 00:01:55 | Give us your assessment.
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| 00:01:56 | Is this a foregone conclusion?
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| 00:01:59 | >> The chances of a deal are
pretty small.
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| 00:02:01 | The stakes aren't so high in
this particular showdown.
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| 00:02:04 | We're talking about a lot of
jobs and a lot of money
obviously, but I think that, you
know, these are reversible, they
can -- congress and the white
house can ooengtally come
together in the coming weeks and
work together on this as they
are trying to strike a deal on
the deficit.
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| 00:02:19 | I would say look for that to
happen more than something to
happen this week.
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| 00:02:23 | >> Ed, we look at today's
"washington post" george will
sequesters the is he quester is
manufactured.
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| 00:02:30 | Sensible americans tuckered out
with the populist fatigue are
yawning through the catastrophe
du jour, the sequester.
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| 00:02:43 | How much of it is manufactured?
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| 00:02:45 | And even if it is, won't regular
americans feel it?
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| 00:02:49 | >> The white house is doing
their best to remind americans
how they might feel it.
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| 00:02:55 | We saw that happen last week,
the real-world effects that
could occur, things like fewer
air traffic controllers, the
national parks have to shut down
visitor centers and other agency
having to furlough workers and
reaches across basic government
services.
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| 00:03:16 | We'll have to wait and see come
tuesday, wednesday, thursday,
get a sense of the country is
that concerned or if they are
sitting this here and saying,
gosh, seeing this song and dance
before.
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| 00:03:28 | Government shutdown in april
2011, the debt ceiling showdown
that summer, the fiscal cliff on
new year's eve, and this -- i
think -- and there will be
another fight over government
spending by the end of march.
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| 00:03:42 | We have been seeing this for two
years and maybe george will is
right.
|
| 00:03:48 | Most people saying, gosh, they
are sorting it out and we'll
ride it out.
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| 00:03:51 | >> People need to understand
that it is going to hit them in
a really palpable way, I am
looking at other departments.
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| 00:04:00 | A nationwide shutdown of meat
and poultry plants.
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| 00:04:05 | Furloughs, inspection personnel.
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| 00:04:07 | Will be pay higher prices?
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| 00:04:11 | Less beef and chicken?
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| 00:04:13 | Will it be safe?
|
| 00:04:14 | Part of that is what the
sequester is.
|
| 00:04:16 | You look at the latest pew poll,
the public wide until favor of
the president's approach on the
sequester.
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| 00:04:22 | On the other side, republicans,
some tea partiers feel beholden
to local constituents to not
raise taxes another dime.
|
| 00:04:32 | Does neither party have the
incentive to resolve this quite
quickly?
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| 00:04:37 | >> That's a tough one, alex.
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| 00:04:39 | The president and white house
are counting on fact that they
do have public support behind
them.
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| 00:04:46 | They say they don't look at
polls, but they clearly do.
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| 00:04:49 | They feel good about public
support and counting on that.
|
| 00:04:51 | Part of the messaging tact and
president obama, you will see
him taking his message across
the country in the coming days
to sort of explain to the
american people what is at stake
here.
|
| 00:05:01 | >> But if a deal is finally
reached, ed, where does the
compromise lie?
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| 00:05:07 | Both sides seem to have dug in
their heels.
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| 00:05:09 | Is it the president who gives in
on tax increases by cutting
loopholes?
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| 00:05:15 | Will they agree to cut some of
the loopholes?
|
| 00:05:18 | >> There are proposals on the
table, very unclear.
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| 00:05:22 | In principle, washington doesn't
mind strog find a way to cut
spending to help pay off the
debt, but there are those who
want to raise taxes and closest
personally now those loopholes
and republicans have put forth
plans, and I think we're looking
at sadly is potentially another
extension -- another -- you use
the phrase, kicking the can down
the road to give folks more time
to think this out.
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| 00:05:53 | It is incredible that we're
still sitting here watching this
play out.
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| 00:05:57 | But there is no sense -- you
know, at this hour.
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| 00:06:02 | Come monday, tuesday, when
lawmakers come back to town,
they will meet with each other,
sort something out.
|
| 00:06:08 | But nobody is moving and it's
unclear where people will be
willing to give.
|
| 00:06:12 | >> The president is criticized
for not reaching out on capitol
hill, particularly for
republicans.
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| 00:06:18 | He made two calls to house
speaker john boehner.
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| 00:06:22 | Who did that yield?
|
| 00:06:23 | >> That's a little bit of
posturing.
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| 00:06:25 | They want to show that they are
kind of talking to republicans,
being criticized constantly for
not talking to republicans, the
message is to take it directly
to the people.
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| 00:06:36 | They don't want to sit down and
negotiate with congress, even
though they say they do.
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| 00:06:39 | They want to take people and
explain in the last budget
fights, felt that was a victory
for them and successful, and you
will see that again this time,
alex.
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| 00:06:49 | >> Ed, give me a prediction, how
will it go down over the next
six days?
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| 00:06:54 | >> What we're looking at more
likely is that they won't
necessarily sort this out by the
end of this coming week, but
instead will wait and ramp it
into having to do another
short-term extension of the
current spending levels and
continuing resolution which
expires at the end of march.
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| 00:07:12 | Some people are going to say,
look, furloughs that may or may
not come would not start for 30
days.
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| 00:07:19 | MARCH 27th, END OF THE C.R.,
Only 27 days.
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| 00:07:23 | Get something done by then,
potentially furloughs wouldn't
ever actually begin and they
would extend everything and
avoid this.
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| 00:07:29 | But I think there actually is
some -- even some can see this
actually start and get a sense
of where there is potential
effects and if the country
starts to feel it.
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| 00:07:44 | It appears to be drastic and the
market reacts drastically, they
will come to a reaction sooner.
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| 00:07:51 | They have the march 27th
deadline.
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| 00:07:53 | What is to say they won't use
that to sort this out and extend
spending levels through the end
of the fiscal year.
|
| 00:07:59 | >> Interesting the next couple
of weeks, that's for sure.
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| 00:08:03 | >> Keeps us busy.
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| 00:08:05 | Thank you.
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| 00:08:05 | >> Ahead, democratic congressman
john yarmouth on how his
district might be affected.
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| 00:08:17 | >>> A new winter warning for the
northeast.
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| 00:08:20 | The third straight weekend of
snow for the region.
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| 00:08:24 | Deyer with the forecast.
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| 00:08:32 | >> Another storm system making
its way to new england.
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| 00:08:34 | It doesn't look like it will
pack as much of a punch as
initially thought.
|
| 00:08:38 | Temperatures in the boston area
are running above freezing.
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| 00:08:41 | 36 Degrees in new york some of
that rain is actually going to
prevent a whole lot of snowfall
accumulation.
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| 00:08:47 | You can see where the rain is.
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| 00:08:49 | Sitting down across the
southeast and several inches of
rain are possible in the area.
|
| 00:08:54 | Moisture streaming from the gulf
of mexico will eventually turn
colder in new england.
|
| 00:08:58 | But it will be mostly interior
new england that will see the
majority of the snowfall, but,
still, only 3 to 6 inches
possible.
|
| 00:09:06 | Heavy rain falling across
atlanta.
|
| 00:09:08 | Thunderstorms moving to alabama
and northern florida, and we are
seeing heavy rain into the
carolinas and virginia as well.
|
| 00:09:14 | Here is an estimate of snowfall
over the next 2 4 8 hours, over
the course of today, especially
tonight and on sunday, but still
only about 3 to 6 inches and
elsewhere across coastal
massachusetts, about one to
three inches of snow.
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| 00:09:29 | Dry in kansas city today, high
of 32 degrees.
|
| 00:09:32 | Another big storm is making its
way into the pacific northwest
that will start to spread
eastward and by early next week,
there is the chance the midwest
could pick up 6 to 12 inches of
snow on top of the big storm
they had last week.
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| 00:09:49 | >> They sure don't need that.
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| 00:09:51 | Yikes.
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| 00:09:52 | >>> The company says only a
small number of microsoft
computers were infected with
malware and no customer data has
been affected.
|
| 00:10:03 | These hacks are similar to the
ones reported by facebook and
apple.
|
| 00:10:07 | >> Less than a week until pope
benedict 16 steps down.
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| 00:10:14 | Those who will choose the next
pope are coming under scrutiny.
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| 00:10:18 | We have the unfolding drama from
anne thompson in rome.
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| 00:10:22 | >> Reporter: Good morning, alex.
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| 00:10:24 | Pope benedict is back at work
and appointed new bishops for
mexico and at tican, they
are readying for huge crowds for
final public events.
|
| 00:10:39 | In the meantime, many unanswered
questions about the historic
transition, such as who will
lead the church?
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| 00:10:46 | A week before pope benedict
retires and there is still no
clear front-runner to can you
seed him.
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| 00:10:52 | However, there is a long shot.
|
| 00:10:54 | New york's greg farruous
cardinal timothy dolan.
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| 00:10:58 | >> I will get anything to get
you guys to church.
|
| 00:11:04 | >> Reporter: Praise in catholic
circles to his perpersona and
fightback on the obama plan for
contraception.
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| 00:11:31 | >> He's a known quantity and man
of integrity.
|
| 00:11:33 | Known as someone who can
communicate the catholic faith
positively.
|
| 00:11:38 | >> Reporter: Here in rome,
another cardinal, roger mahoney,
retired archbishop of los
angeles is under fire for his
role for moving and shielding
priests.
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| 00:11:50 | Mahoney faces his own deposition
after which he will come to the
vatican to come for the new
pope.
|
| 00:11:56 | This week an italian cardinal
told a local newspaper that
mahoney should stay home.
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| 00:12:02 | Some american catholics should
agree.
|
| 00:12:06 | >> Reporter: All cardinals
should be held to the highest
standard.
|
| 00:12:10 | Anyone whose hands are tainted
should refrain from voting.
|
| 00:12:14 | >> Reporter: Cardinals from
other countries are also mired
in scandal.
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| 00:12:19 | All cardinals under the age of
80 must vote unless they are
seriously ill or prevented from
traveling.
|
| 00:12:28 | One fun fact.
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| 00:12:31 | On february 28, when pope
benedict officially retires.
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| 00:12:36 | They will take away his ring,
the symbol of his authority and
destroy it.
|
| 00:12:40 | He will also lose his twitter.
|
| 00:12:43 | I'm anne thompson in rome, back
to you.
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| 00:12:46 | Alex.
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apocalypse fatigue?
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| 00:16:27 | >> Colorado governor john
hickenlooper, one of the
governors who met with the
president on friday about the
potential impact that the
sequester would have on state
economies.
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| 00:16:49 | Let's go to kristen welker.
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| 00:16:51 | What are they doing to keep the
sequester from taking affect?
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| 00:16:55 | >> President obama will have
conversations with congress this
weekend and into next week.
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| 00:17:00 | So far, talks have yielded no
results.
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| 00:17:02 | Both sides are dug in, and it
seems increasingly likely that
the sequester will go into
effect.
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| 00:17:08 | In his weekly address today,
president obama said it's up to
congress to act.
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| 00:17:15 | >> I never think anything is
inevitable, we have the
opportunity to make the right
decisions.
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| 00:17:22 | My hope is we can see a
different course taken by
congress.
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| 00:17:26 | This should be a no-brainer.
|
| 00:17:30 | >> In an effort to pressure
congress, the obama
administration has also been
painting a fairly dire picture
of what will happen if the
sequester kicks in and on friday
outgoing transportation
SECRETARY ray LaHood says it
will have a big impact on the
air travel industry.
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| 00:17:49 | As many as 47,000 employees
could be furloughed and that
could ultimately wind up showing
air traffic control and air
travel.
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| 00:17:56 | Take a listen.
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| 00:17:57 | >> Travelers should expect
delays.
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| 00:18:00 | Flights to major cities like new
york, chicago, and san francisco
and others could experience
delays of up to 90 minutes
during peak hours.
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| 00:18:13 | Becausfewer
controllers on strap.
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| 00:18:19 | >> Reporter: The administration
has also warned 800,000 civilian
defense department workers would
be furloughed.
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| 00:18:26 | 10,000 Teachers and educators
could be laid off and some
border patrol agents would see a
decrease in hours.
|
| 00:18:33 | Late friday, alex,
representative from house
speaker john boehner's office
sent me a statement saying "the
president has been far more
interested in holding campaign
style rallies than urging his
party in the senate to find a
solution.
|
| 00:18:47 | I can tell you, alex, the
sticking points are familiar
ones, president obama wants to
see new tax revenue.
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| 00:18:55 | Ry public I had cans think this
should be worked out through
entitlement reform and spending
cuts.
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| 00:19:00 | Really no resolution in sight.
|
| 00:19:02 | I have been talking to folks on
both sides of pennsylvania
avenue and they are increasingly
pessimistic that there will be a
resolution within six days
remaining.
|
| 00:19:11 | Alex.
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| 00:19:12 | >> Kristen, I'm looking at a
rundown of department by
department on how ts will
affect staffing.
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| 00:19:23 | It's extraordinary.
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| 00:19:23 | I think people will be quite
surprised.
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| 00:19:27 | We'll see what everyone feels
like friday if they are not able
to put this deal together.
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| 00:19:32 | >> Thanks, alex.
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| 00:23:14 | Consumer expert regina lewis
let's talk abo
payroll taxes.
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| 00:23:24 | >> There was a two-year tax
holiday.
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| 00:23:29 | 2%.
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| 00:23:29 | It sounds like a small number
until you start to play that
out.
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| 00:23:32 | If you make $30,000 a year.
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| 00:23:35 | That is 50 buck as a month.
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| 00:23:37 | That might mean you go out to
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| 00:23:45 | Over the course of a couple of
months, you may forgo that piece
of person toure.
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| 00:23:51 | Walmart is saying it's having an
effect on consumer spending.
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| 00:23:55 | >> All of us, even just myself,
cutting back.
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| 00:23:58 | You feeling it in your
paychecks.
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| 00:24:00 | What about the gas pumps?
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| 00:24:06 | No happy camp pers.
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| 00:24:07 | >> This is a double whammy.
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| 00:24:09 | Gas prices up 45 cents on
average since january.
|
| 00:24:13 | That is a lot.
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| 00:24:14 | And it may get worse from here.
|
| 00:24:17 | The real crunch point where
everyone notices $4.
|
| 00:24:21 | Not since july 2008 have we seen
an average of 4.11.
|
| 00:24:26 | But because this rampup is so
early, we really could be headed
there.
|
| 00:24:30 | There is something called the
summer blend of fuel, which is
more expensive.
|
| 00:24:35 | Those do with all of the
regulations to not contribute to
smog, evaporates a little bit
less, and that hasn't even
rotated into the cycle yet.
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| 00:24:47 | Probably going up from here.
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| 00:24:48 | >> Oh, great.
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| 00:24:49 | What about the oscar swag a
little bit less.
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| 00:24:54 | >> A value of $47,000.
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| 00:25:01 | Fairly standard practice aaward
show.
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| 00:25:03 | A sampling program.
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| 00:25:08 | If you want to reachfluencers
and you want to reach an
audience, you want to sample
this crowd.
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| 00:25:15 | Down every year in value since
2010.
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| 00:25:18 | Big trips.
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| 00:25:19 | In 2010, they offered a safari,
apparently only robert downey
jr. booked that.
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| 00:25:25 | Nobody took them up on it, but
it did increase the value of the
package.
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| 00:25:29 | >> Any trips this time?
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| 00:25:30 | Or is that cut out?
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| 00:25:33 | >> Always trips, but not as
premium as a safari to africa.
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| 00:25:37 | >> Cool stuff, nonetheless.
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| 00:25:39 | Regina lewis, thank you very
much.
|
| 00:25:43 | >>> Are you spending less
because of the payroll tax hike?
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| 00:25:47 | I already admitted I am.
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| 00:25:49 | I will read your tweets
throughout the day.
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| 00:25:51 | >>> In today's one-minute
obama did a dance
coming on the set to talk to
jimmy, talked about date night
with the president and her
famous bangs.
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| 00:26:03 | >> You don't have much time for
tv.
|
| 00:26:05 | How do you have time for
personal stuff?
|
| 00:26:07 | How about dates?
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| 00:26:08 | >> We try to do date nights.
|
| 00:26:12 | It's a little tough.
|
| 00:26:13 | Barack has a 20-car motorcade.
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| 00:26:16 | Men with guns, the ambulance is
always there.
|
| 00:26:20 | How romantic can you be?
|
| 00:26:23 | >> Ambulance pulling up.
|
| 00:26:24 | >> He's like we're going to go
out on a romantic dinner.
|
| 00:26:31 | I'm like is the ambulance
coming?
|
| 00:26:33 | It's over.
|
| 00:26:33 | >> Biggest story of 2013 has to
be your hair style.
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| 00:26:38 | >> Yeah.
|
| 00:26:41 | >> This is the biggest -- did
you know this was going that be
that big news?
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| 00:26:46 | >> I tell you, no.
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| 00:26:49 | I thought maybe a story, but i
didn't think we'd still be
talking about it.
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| 00:26:54 | >> It looks gorgeous.
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| 00:26:55 | >> Thank you.
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| 00:30:03 | >>> Welcome back to "weekends
"
your fast five headlines.
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| 00:30:11 | troops in nyjer will set up
unarmed drones to help france in
their fight in mali.
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| 00:30:19 | >>> And south korea is asking
north korea to stop tests,
calling it hostility.
|
| 00:30:26 | >>> Moody's is downgrading.
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| 00:30:34 | And a man freed after dna proved
his innocence.
|
| 00:30:41 | And rosa parks' statue has
arrived at the capitol.
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| 00:30:48 | It will be unveiled next week.
|
| 00:30:50 | >>> In south africa, oscar
pistorius is a free man, at
least for now.
|
| 00:30:54 | We're showing you video of
pistorius entering court a
couple of hours before he was
granted bail in the case of his
girlfriend, reeva steenkamp.
|
| 00:31:08 | Let's go to michelle kosinkski.
|
| 00:31:11 | He's out on bail.
|
| 00:31:14 | What comes next for him?
|
| 00:31:16 | >> Reporter: He went to his
uncle's house with his family
after being released on bail.
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| 00:31:21 | He can't go back to his own
home, the scene of the alleged
crime.
|
| 00:31:25 | He has to surrender passports,
guns, can't use drugs or
alcohol.
|
| 00:31:29 | Has to get permission to leave
town and check in with police
twice a week starting monday.
|
| 00:31:34 | He may actually start training
again on monday, even though his
agent had canceled all of his
upcoming races, but his coach
told us he thinks training is
the best thing right now to
clear his mind.
|
| 00:31:46 | When asked whether training
isn't the last thing on
pistorius' mind after losing his
girlfriend, the coach didn't
comment.
|
| 00:31:53 | Yesterday as that ruling was
read, pistorius sobbed, his body
shaking.
|
| 00:31:57 | The judge said that he had
problems with pistorius' account
of the morning that reeva
steenkamp was killed.
|
| 00:32:08 | Why did into the danger
that he claimed was so
terrifying?
|
| 00:32:13 | Why didn't he asked who was in
there before firing into the
bathroom?
|
| 00:32:18 | Why didn't question searching
for his girlfriend not in the
bed?
|
| 00:32:21 | He said pistorius isn't a danger
and likely won't run from
justice.
|
| 00:32:27 | His next court appearance since
until june.
|
| 00:32:30 | >> Until june, he must have
restrictions, rules he must
abide by.
|
| 00:32:34 | What are those?
|
| 00:32:37 | >> He has this time on his
hands.
|
| 00:32:40 | There are more specifics, like
he can't go toon airport, it has
to do with travel and he had to
surrender.
|
| 00:32:49 | Traffic is difficult.
|
| 00:32:50 | Getting permission every time he
wants to leave his hometown of
pretoria here.
|
| 00:32:54 | Other than that, he can go about
living his life.
|
| 00:32:56 | His coach, like said, even
talking about training
immediately, so he won't have
any imminent races.
|
| 00:33:02 | I mean, his schedule before this
happened had him racing on four
continents within the next to
you months.
|
| 00:33:09 | That's gone now, sponsors as
well suspend their contracts or
sponsorship with hip.
|
| 00:33:15 | But he will be able to work out,
stay healthy, visit with his
family and friends if out to
dinner, he'll likely be seen
around town if that's what he
chooses to do.
|
| 00:33:24 | But we know photographers are
already camped out outside this
house where he went yesterday,
alex.
|
| 00:33:30 | >> Okay.
|
| 00:33:31 | Michelle kosinkski, thank you.
|
| 00:33:33 | Let's go to politics now.
|
| 00:33:35 | More warnings about the long
dreaded sequester this one
possibly causing a shortage of
meats, because the agriculture
might be forced to furlough meat
inspectors up to 15 days.
|
| 00:33:48 | >> They cut us back 15 days
straight which we can't do that,
which I highly doubt that will
ever happen, but, yeah, it would
definitely affect things.
|
| 00:33:57 | >> The feds project a sequester
could shut down poultry and meat
plants nationwide.
|
| 00:34:08 | >>> A 5% budget cut will shorten
visiting hours at national parks
and make some areas completely
off-limits to visitors.
|
| 00:34:15 | >>> In his new weekly address,
the president doubled down on
blaming the sequester on
republicans in congress.
|
| 00:34:23 | >> These cuts don't have to
happen.
|
| 00:34:25 | Congress can turn them off any
time with just a little
compromise.
|
| 00:34:29 | Unfortunately, it appears that
republicans in congress have
appeared instead of
compromising, instead of asking
anything of the wealthiest
americans, they would rather let
cuts fall squarely on the middle
class.
|
| 00:34:46 | >> John yarmuth joins us now.
|
| 00:34:50 | Good to see you.
|
| 00:34:51 | >> Good to see you, alex.
|
| 00:34:53 | >> Six days to go.
|
| 00:34:54 | What do you think?
|
| 00:34:56 | Will we go through the sequester
or will a deal be made?
|
| 00:35:01 | >> I don't think a deal will be
made.
|
| 00:35:03 | Some kind of delay tactic will
probably be made.
|
| 00:35:07 | Ed o'keefe in the hour had it
right.
|
| 00:35:09 | THE REAL DEADLINE, MARCH 27th.
|
| 00:35:11 | Because we run out of money,
funding authority anyway.
|
| 00:35:14 | We have to come to some kind of
agreement on how to fund the
government between the end of
the month and the end of the
FISCAL YEAR, SEPTEMBER 2 3 0th.
|
| 00:35:22 | So friday is kind of an
artificial deadline that really
doesn't mean much, but, you
know, the president had it wrong
a little bit.
|
| 00:35:29 | Getting a bit off message here,
I don't think the choices
between taxing the rich and
the -- and cutting vital
services, I think the choice is
not doing something that's
really stupid and that is to
make these across the board
cuts.
|
| 00:35:44 | The whole idea behind the
sequester was to -- to force
people to come to agreement on
deficit reduction by providing
an alternative that was so
dreadful that nobody wanted it.
|
| 00:35:56 | That's what this is.
|
| 00:35:56 | We don't have to go through the
dreadful cuts, we can just say
no, we're not going to do this.
|
| 00:36:02 | It's wrong for the country.
|
| 00:36:03 | That's what we should do.
|
| 00:36:05 | >> I want to ask you about an
article in "the washington
"
to all of you on capitol hill,
as you are facing this deadline,
do you really look at that as
that being the date.
|
| 00:36:15 | Not really concerned with march
1st?
|
| 00:36:18 | You said it's somewhat an
artificial date.
|
| 00:36:22 | Doing your negotiating, trying
to figure outcome on mize, are
you working on the premise of
MARCH 27th?
|
| 00:36:27 | >> I wish I knew, because we
have only been in session 12
days this entire year which is
absolutely shameful.
|
| 00:36:35 | We haven't had a lot of time to
talk to our colleagues.
|
| 00:36:39 | Remember, the original sequester
was scheduled to go in effect on
JANUARY 1st.
|
| 00:36:43 | As part of that fiscal cliff
deal, we delayed it for two
months, we could delay it again
UNTIL MARCH 27th, BECAUSE AGAIN,
As has been mentioned, that's
what we have to decide how much
we're going to spend for the
rest of the year.
|
| 00:36:59 | And there is no point in going
through the charade for 26 or 27
days when we have to make the
same decision a few weeks later.
|
| 00:37:07 | >> So the genesis of all this,
bob woodward has this through
piece in "the washington post,"
he writes then omb director jack
liu and ron nabors came up with
the sequester.
|
| 00:37:25 | He has the exact time and date
they pitched it to harry reid.
|
| 00:37:29 | 2:30 On july 27, 2011.
|
| 00:37:32 | Is the president guilty of not
letting the facts get in the way
of a good talking point against
the republicans?
|
| 00:37:39 | >> Well, again, I know in that
particular instance, trying to
resolve a crisis on whether to
raise the debt ceiling and
default our debt, he suggested
that as an alternative.
|
| 00:37:50 | The republican has it in the
cut, cap and balance plan months
before that and remember in the
house anyway.
|
| 00:38:00 | 170-Something republicans
provided more votes for the
sequester idea than democrats
did.
|
| 00:38:05 | I voted against it.
|
| 00:38:06 | Knew it was a bad idea.
|
| 00:38:08 | But I think both sides were
equally culpable in doing
something that was absolutely
nonsensical and we should do now
is just admit what we did was
silly.
|
| 00:38:18 | >> I would like you to listen to
your democratic colleague,
debbie wasserman schultz on our
air yesterday.
|
| 00:38:25 | >> Do republicans consider the
sequester leverage.
|
| 00:38:30 | The looming shutdown leverage so
they can get the spending cuts
they want and protect the tax
breaks they have been trying to
protect for the wealthiest
americans.
|
| 00:38:40 | >> Do the democrats and
president not also consider this
leverage, the leverage to raise
taxes?
|
| 00:38:46 | >> Well, I don't look at it that
way.
|
| 00:38:49 | Think debbie is right, some
republicans think it's leverage,
but republicans don't want
dramatic cuts on defense
spending.
|
| 00:38:57 | I don't think they want what
they have in front of us either,
both of us are using it for
political leverage to battle the
other side.
|
| 00:39:07 | That won't solve the problem.
|
| 00:39:09 | >> I can ask you about the buzz
of ashley judd running for
senate.
|
| 00:39:14 | >> Of course.
|
| 00:39:14 | >> She met with some pretty big
democratic donors in the state.
|
| 00:39:18 | Does she have what it takes to
BEAT SENATOR mitch McConnell,
the senate minority leader?
|
| 00:39:23 | >> Absolutely.
|
| 00:39:24 | There is virtually no excitement
at all about re-electing mitch
McCONNELL IN THE STATE.
|
| 00:39:30 | A state-wide poll recently shows
75% of kentuckians, 35% of
republicans will definitely vote
to re-elect him.
|
| 00:39:39 | Plenty of energy to retire him
after five terms and nobody i
think could capture that energy
better than somebody like ashley
judd who has enormous star
power, beloved in the
commonwealth, eight generations
her family has been in the
state.
|
| 00:39:54 | University of kentucky's number
one fan, and also she's a very,
very smart woman who is very
active in political issues,
she's got a master's in public
policy from harvard.
|
| 00:40:05 | She's very, very engaged, and i
think she would be a terrific
candidate.
|
| 00:40:11 | >> Wow.
|
| 00:40:12 | The master's in public policy
from harvard gives her some cred
right there.
|
| 00:40:18 | >> Good to see you, alex, thank
you.
|
| 00:40:21 | >>> In this week's office
politics, david denkins.
|
| 00:40:26 | We talk about his hard-fought
race for mayor in 1989.
|
| 00:40:33 | I start by asking about his
concern for the level of
debt-ridden economy many.
|
| 00:40:39 | >> I'm very concerned.
|
| 00:40:40 | We are the greatest nation in
the world.
|
| 00:40:43 | We have got enormous assets and
a lot of good people, yet we
have this tremendous difficulty.
|
| 00:40:58 | The money we spend in wars, at
least one of which we should not
ever have been in.
|
| 00:41:05 | And I am a product of world war
ii.
|
| 00:41:15 | I was in the united states
marine corps in 1945 and a proud
recipient of a gold medal i
thought the way to survive was
to be well trained, and the way
to be retrained was to be a
marine.
|
| 00:41:34 | I didn't know anything about the
s or the army
rangers.
|
| 00:41:38 | They may not have even had them
in that day.
|
| 00:41:40 | I knew about the marine corps
and niform, I looked like
a boy scout.
|
| 00:41:48 | One of the smartest things i
have ever done.
|
| 00:41:50 | >> You talk about the expense of
war, having been in the shoes of
somebody serving our country.
|
| 00:41:58 | Once you're in it, you've got to
spend it.
|
| 00:42:01 | >> Oh, I don't disagree with
that.
|
| 00:42:12 | The problem is, in some
instances we shouldn't have
been.
|
| 00:42:17 | Colin powell made that statement
of weapons of mass destruction,
which was inaccurate.
|
| 00:42:22 | Not so.
|
| 00:42:23 | He was operating under the
information given him.
|
| 00:42:25 | Who knows?
|
| 00:42:27 | We might have been there had it
not been for that.
|
| 00:42:30 | >> To what do you attribute this
hyper partisanship these days?
|
| 00:42:34 | >> I done know.
|
| 00:42:36 | >> Always been that way?
|
| 00:42:37 | >> I don't think so.
|
| 00:42:40 | I don't know whether it was
lyndon johnson.
|
| 00:42:44 | Somebody years ago said we can
disagree without being
disagreeable.
|
| 00:42:48 | And --
>> john McCain said that.
|
| 00:42:50 | >> He's a hero.
|
| 00:42:52 | >> Um-hum.
|
| 00:42:53 | >> He's a hero.
|
| 00:42:55 | I don't know why some of our
elecs behave as they
do.
|
| 00:43:05 | It's rather sad frankly.
|
| 00:43:07 | >> That's on a federal lev.
|
| 00:43:09 | Look at the city you ran, the
largest city in the nation.
|
| 00:43:12 | What was the tenor of
partisanship at that point?
|
| 00:43:15 | >> Well, it was great.
|
| 00:43:19 | But when the battle was over,
you sort of put away the weapons
and -- and, you know, the
pitchforks and got out the
shovels or something.
|
| 00:43:29 | It -- it was different.
|
| 00:43:30 | It was a hard-fought battle, but
I am -- I emerged with better
than 50% of the vote in the
primary, then I faced rudy, and
he is not yet america's mayor.
|
| 00:43:49 | 9/11 Has not yet occurred.
|
| 00:43:54 | >> And what is it that put you
over the steps.
|
| 00:44:00 | >> And the democrats, and it was
5-6-1.
|
| 00:44:10 | >> You are mayor in this city.
|
| 00:44:12 | In your tenure, all republicans.
|
| 00:44:15 | >> Part of the is, my friend
mike in the last election, spent
well ov$100 million.
|
| 00:44:25 | >> More of our conversation at
12:00 noon.
|
| 00:44:30 | And we'll talk about what he
thinks is the root cause behind
president obama's detractors.
|
| 00:44:39 | >>> Picking the winners.
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| 00:44:41 | One expert's prediction.
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| 00:47:52 | The academy awards take center
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the best shot at oscar gold.
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| 00:48:02 | Right to it.
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| 00:48:03 | A lot of solid movies.
|
| 00:48:05 | Best picture, what do you have
there?
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| 00:48:08 | "
everyone by now knows the story.
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| 00:48:12 | It didn't look like "argo" was
going to win.
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| 00:48:17 | Ben affleck snubbed for best
director nomination.
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| 00:48:22 | You usually don't get the win
for best picture if there is no
best director nomination.
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| 00:48:26 | Things have completely changed
since the nomination.
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| 00:48:31 | They won the golden globe,
screen actors gild.
|
| 00:48:37 | Directors gild.
|
| 00:48:38 | It's a great movie.
|
| 00:48:39 | Critics like it, crowds like it.
|
| 00:48:41 | And hollywood ending, hollywood
saves the day and the ben
affleck angle too, and that
story, a hollywood story as
well.
|
| 00:48:49 | I love this.
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| 00:48:50 | >> A good story.
|
| 00:48:51 | What about best director.
|
| 00:48:52 | Who gets that?
|
| 00:48:52 | >> This one, nobody really
knows.
|
| 00:48:55 | Looks right now like maybe
steven spielberg or ang lee for
"
he did such a great job with
this amazing, beautiful story.
|
| 00:49:18 | >> A tough book definitely to
turn into a movie.
|
| 00:49:20 | What about best actor?
|
| 00:49:22 | >> Daniel day-lewis.
|
| 00:49:23 | I don't think there is any
question about this.
|
| 00:49:25 | >> We can just move on to best
actress.
|
| 00:49:28 | >> Exactly.
|
| 00:49:29 | This would be his third win as
best actor, which doesn't happen
it would be an amazing feat for
him.
|
| 00:49:35 | >> Best actress?
|
| 00:49:36 | >> A tough one.
|
| 00:49:37 | I think jennifer lawrence for
"
such a great film.
|
| 00:49:43 | Four actress nominations.
|
| 00:49:45 | But jennifer lawrence has
|
| 00:00:00 | Congressional
republicans with just six days
until the painful across the
board budget cuts take effect,
if no deal can be reached to
avert the sequester.
|
| 00:00:09 | >> Are republicans in congress
really willing to let these cuts
fall on our kid' schools and
mental health care just to
protect tax loopholes for
corporate jet owners?
|
| 00:00:18 | Are they really willing to slash
military health care and the
border patrol just because they
refuse to eliminate tax breaks
for big oil companies?
|
| 00:00:26 | Are they seriously prepared to
inflict more pain on the middle
class because they refuse to ask
anything more of those at the
very top?
|
| 00:00:33 | >> Meantime, republicans are
defending their record, putting
the blame on the president.
|
| 00:00:39 | Senator john hobin of north
dakota delivered this week's
republican address.
|
| 00:00:44 | >> House republicans have
already passed two bills to
replace the president's
sequester.
|
| 00:00:49 | So the question is, why won't he
work with us?
|
| 00:00:51 | And the answer quite simply is
because he wants higher taxes.
|
| 00:00:55 | >> Let's go to the white house
and nbc's kristen welker.
|
| 00:00:59 | Another good saturday to you,
kristen.
|
| 00:01:01 | Let's talk about the president,
what he's doing this weekend to
help broker some sort of a deal
to avoid the sequester taking
effect on friday.
|
| 00:01:11 | >> Reporter: Alex, good
afternoon.
|
| 00:01:13 | The president says he's going to
have conversations with members
of congress and throughout the
week.
|
| 00:01:18 | But so far the limited
conversations they have had have
yielded no results.
|
| 00:01:21 | Both sides are dug in it seems
increasingly likely the
sequester will kick in.
|
| 00:01:26 | On friday president obama met
with the prime minister of
japan, and he answered some
questions from journalists as
you can imagine, many of them
about the sequester.
|
| 00:01:36 | One person asking him, is it
inevitable the sequester will go
into effect?
|
| 00:01:40 | Here's what he had to say.
|
| 00:01:41 | Take a listen.
|
| 00:01:43 | >> I never think that anything's
inevitable.
|
| 00:01:46 | We always have the opportunity
to make the right decisions.
|
| 00:01:49 | I hope is that we can see a
different course taken by
congress.
|
| 00:01:53 | This should be a no-brainer.
|
| 00:01:55 | >> Reporter: Now in order to
pressure congress to act, the
obama administration has really
been painting a dire picture of
what would happen if the
sequester did in fact kick in.
|
| 00:02:07 | On friday out going
TRANSPORTATION secretary LaHood
spoke to reporters.
|
| 00:02:11 | He warned that the faa would
have to furlough 47,000
employees.
|
| 00:02:17 | La hood said that could mean
that air travel would be slowed.
|
| 00:02:21 | Here's what la hood had to say.
|
| 00:02:23 | >> Travelers should expect
delays.
|
| 00:02:26 | Flights to major cities, like
new york, chicago and san
francisco and others, could
experience delays of up to 90
minutes during peak hours
because we have fewer
controllers on staff.
|
| 00:02:40 | >> Reporter: Now the
administration has also warned
that 800,000 civilian defense
department workers would be fur
loued, 10,000 teachers and
educators could be laid off.
|
| 00:02:48 | Some border patrol agents would
see a decrease in hours.
|
| 00:02:52 | Now on friday, house speaker
john boehner's office responded
to our inquiries for a reaction
to all of this.
|
| 00:02:58 | And they responded by saying the
president is "far more
interested in holding
campaign-style rallies than
urging his party in the senate
"
alex, the sticking points are
very familiar.
|
| 00:03:10 | They're the same sticking points
that we've been talking about in
a lot of these budget battles.
|
| 00:03:15 | President obama is demanding
more revenue from taxes.
|
| 00:03:19 | Republicans say they want to
deal with this issue through
entitlement reform and through
spending cuts.
|
| 00:03:24 | They're also accusing the white
house of using scare tactics to
try to get something
accomplished here.
|
| 00:03:31 | The white house denies those
claims, but I can tell you
there's a lot of finger pointing
going back and forth and very
little action.
|
| 00:03:37 | Six days out and no resolution
in sight.
|
| 00:03:40 | Alex?
|
| 00:03:41 | >> Okay, kristen welker, thank
you for that rather dismal
update there from the white
house, appreciate that.
|
| 00:03:45 | >>> Joining me now, democratic
congressman matt cartwright of
depends.
|
| 00:03:51 | Representative cartwright, thank
you for being here.
|
| 00:03:54 | >> Alex, my pleasure, how are
you today?
|
| 00:03:57 | >> I'm well, thank you.
|
| 00:03:58 | But we've got to get to this
business of the sequester.
|
| 00:04:00 | I know that you've described
lawmakers as being on vacation
when they dealing with the the
sequester.
|
| 00:04:07 | It's hanging over the economy.
|
| 00:04:08 | And you say like the airplane we
are flying is going down and
we're taking a break to watch
the in-flight movie.
|
| 00:04:15 | So what are you talking about?
|
| 00:04:17 | Is this sort of a lack of
urgency from both sides?
|
| 00:04:20 | Because there's no incentive for
democrats nor republicans to cut
a deal here?
|
| 00:04:26 | >> I am not saying that at all,
alex.
|
| 00:04:29 | I'm saying that the house
leadership on the republican
side, which controls the
schedule, controls the calendar,
they have every power to bring
, to go back to
our desks on the floor of the
house and work out the problem.
|
| 00:04:48 | With ten days to go before the
ridiculous sequester takes
place, we don't get called back
to washington.
|
| 00:04:55 | Instead, we have what we call a
district work week scheduled.
|
| 00:05:00 | In other words, people are
working on things other than
averting this sequester.
|
| 00:05:06 | I think it's ridiculous.
|
| 00:05:07 | I think that even to see the
republican house leadership
working hardest on blaming
president obama for the
sequester is foolish.
|
| 00:05:18 | What we have is speaker boehner
making posters about president
obama trying to call it the
obama-quester, sort of the way
they did with obama care, making
all the blame the president's.
|
| 00:05:33 | Well, here's the problem.
|
| 00:05:35 | When two sides agree to a deal,
to a stopgap measure like the
sequester, if they both agreed
to it how is it the fault of one
more than the other?
|
| 00:05:45 | What we have going on right
now --
>> can't you even look -- look
you're a freshman congressman.
|
| 00:05:50 | There was a lot of hope, a lot
of sense of change, things might
be different.
|
| 00:05:53 | I know a lot of you came in
saying, we're going to make a
difference now.
|
| 00:05:59 | Do you get any sense that both
sides want to work together to
try to resolve this problem?
|
| 00:06:05 | >> Oh, alex, I get a sense that
not only is there a feeling
among all of the freshman
democrats and republicans that
we want to come together and
find a way out of this
ridiculous sequester situation,
I get that sense from
republicans who are senior in
the ranks, higher-up
republicans, higher-up
democrats.
|
| 00:06:28 | I believe that there are a lot
of people in the house who do
want to get together and work on
this.
|
| 00:06:34 | We need to be in washington
rolling up our sleeves and
tackling this problem, but house
republican leadership is not
inviting us back to work on it.
|
| 00:06:44 | It's ridiculous.
|
| 00:06:45 | >> But you are back in on
monday.
|
| 00:06:46 | So you have what, four days
before it kicks in what's going
to get done?
|
| 00:06:52 | If you're correct, if you're
saying there are a lot of
people, what is it the majority
that you sense or just a
powerful few that seem to be
digging in their heels?
|
| 00:06:59 | Give me a sense of that and
whether you think this thing
will get done by friday.
|
| 00:07:05 | >> Well, there's no doubt there
are some hard liners from the
right who actually think it
would be a good idea for the
sequester to take place.
|
| 00:07:16 | I think that's outrageous.
|
| 00:07:16 | We're talking about a sequester.
|
| 00:07:18 | The last program before the top
of the hour you had somebody
describing the economy like a
cancer patient.
|
| 00:07:26 | Well, you can use that analogy
here.
|
| 00:07:29 | The sequester with
indiscriminate cuts means that
you've got to cut something out.
|
| 00:07:36 | All we're giving the surgeon is
a meat cleaver instead of a
scalpel.
|
| 00:07:43 | Nobody in any kind of
responsible position would let
that sques fer go through.
|
| 00:07:48 | The fact there are some members
of congress who would like to
see the sequester go through, i
find that absolutely
astonishing.
|
| 00:07:55 | And I think that it has to be
replaced with something
sensible.
|
| 00:07:58 | >> But even beyond the
politicians, let's look at folks
in your particular community who
are going to hear about all
sorts of things, from the fact
that there are going to be meat
inspectors that are furloughed
so we're not sure about the
quality and availability of our
meat, the air traffic
CONTROLLERS, LaHOOD
Transportation secretary saying
we're going to have delays, not
even clear what kind of security
problems that poses.
|
| 00:08:26 | And toby an hannah army depot
looking to close in your
district, 1,000 furloughs there.
|
| 00:08:34 | The national guard is going to
send out notices as early as
friday.
|
| 00:08:38 | Reaction from your constituents.
|
| 00:08:39 | How's that going?
|
| 00:08:40 | >> I'm very proud to represent
the 5400 families who are
supported by the toby hannah
army depot.
|
| 00:08:48 | They do incredibly good
communications refurbishing work
for army equipment.
|
| 00:08:53 | And yes, they would be facing
stark cuts for no good reason.
|
| 00:08:57 | And here's the problem.
|
| 00:08:59 | It doesn't just hurt our
economy, which is in its fragile
recovery.
|
| 00:09:05 | It doesn't just hurt jobs, which
it would in my district as in
many other districts that depend
on defense spending.
|
| 00:09:12 | It hurts our nation's military
preparedness.
|
| 00:09:15 | We don't want to be doing this.
|
| 00:09:17 | We want to be doing something
sensible.
|
| 00:09:19 | We need to get back to
washington.
|
| 00:09:22 | And we're counting on the
republican house leadership to
come to its senses, stop blaming
each other, and find our way
forward out of this mess.
|
| 00:09:30 | >> All right.
|
| 00:09:31 | Well, we'll be watching come
monday.
|
| 00:09:33 | Democratic congressman from
pennsylvania, matt cartwright,
thanks so much for your time.
|
| 00:09:38 | Appreciate it.
|
| 00:09:38 | >> My pleasure.
|
| 00:09:39 | >>> Coming up in our next hour
we'll hear from republican
congressman marcia blackburn of
tennessee.
|
| 00:09:44 | We'll get her take on all the
looming cuts.
|
| 00:09:46 | >>> Northern new england bracing
for its third winter storm in
three weeks in kansas people are
digging out right now after that
storm dumped about a foot of
snow on them.
|
| 00:09:53 | Look at the snow.
|
| 00:09:55 | It is too much for the roof at
this local business.
|
| 00:09:57 | That's a mess right there.
|
| 00:10:03 | Dillon dryer, good day to you.
|
| 00:10:06 | >> Good day to you.
|
| 00:10:07 | The problem with the the storms
they seem to hit area over and
over ag new england will get
know tonight and tomorrow.
|
| 00:10:18 | Missouri and kansas another
storm next week.
|
| 00:10:20 | Boston at 30 degrees right now.
|
| 00:10:22 | Obviously we need things to cool
off quite a bit before we start
to see accumulating snow.
|
| 00:10:27 | In fact it does look like most
of the day will be more or less
a cold rain.
|
| 00:10:30 | Same goes for new york city,
too.
|
| 00:10:32 | We're not really going to see
any accumulation around here.
|
| 00:10:34 | This has a lot of moisture with
it streaming in from the gulf of
mexico.
|
| 00:10:38 | We've seen several inches of
rain already in portions of the
southeast.
|
| 00:10:43 | And we could see an additional,
two three inches of rain across
southeastern georgia and into
northern florida as well.
|
| 00:10:50 | As far as snowfall accumulation
is concerned it's mostly
interior england.
|
| 00:10:56 | Six inches of snow, closer to
nine in the higher elevations.
|
| 00:11:00 | But this is going to be more of
a news an snowstorm than a big
snowstorm.
|
| 00:11:05 | We are going to see our next
snowstorm move in through the
rockies and into the midwest
early next week.
|
| 00:11:10 | And it could end up being
another one of those storms that
produces 6 to 12 inches of snow
in areas like kansas city that
are still digging out from the
storm we had last week.
|
| 00:11:19 | Alex?
|
| 00:11:19 | >> Wow.
|
| 00:11:20 | Okay.
|
| 00:11:20 | Well, thanks for the head up on
that, dylan.
|
| 00:11:22 | Appreciate it.
|
| 00:11:23 | What can you do, right?
|
| 00:11:24 | >>> Let's go from there to south
africa where olympian oscar
pistorius is free on bail but
not exactly a free man.
|
| 00:11:32 | Surrendering his passport is
just one of the many conditions
pistorius must comply with as he
AWAITS HIS TRIAL ON JUNE 4th.
|
| 00:11:38 | A chief magistrate granted
pistorius bail yesterday.
|
| 00:11:42 | He's accused of fatally shooting
his girlfriend reeva steinkamp.
|
| 00:11:49 | Michelle, good evening your
time.
|
| 00:11:50 | Let's talk about what life is
going to be like for oscar
pistorius until his trial
begins.
|
| 00:11:55 | What do you know about that?
|
| 00:11:56 | >> Reporter: Well, he went back
to his uncle's house after he
was released on bail.
|
| 00:12:00 | Now he's not allowed to go to
his gated mansion which is also
the scene of the alleged crime.
|
| 00:12:04 | So that's just one of many
conditions as you said of his
bail.
|
| 00:12:09 | Still, he is free.
|
| 00:12:10 | And his coach is even talking
about starting to train him
again as soon as monday.
|
| 00:12:17 | Oscar pistorius had reason to
smile but didn't, heading home
with his family out of jail.
|
| 00:12:24 | An international pack of
photographers chased their suv
all the way to his uncle's
secure home.
|
| 00:12:29 | In the two-hour ruling was read
friday keeping a packed
courtroom and the world on the
edge of its seat.
|
| 00:12:35 | >> The accused has made a case
to be released on bail.
|
| 00:12:39 | >> Reporter: The emotion flowed.
|
| 00:12:42 | Pistorius sonned, his body
shaking, his family overcome
with relief, at one point
holding hands and praying.
|
| 00:12:50 | >> We are relieved the fact that
oscar got bail today.
|
| 00:12:56 | But at the same time, we are in
mourning for the death of reeva
with her family.
|
| 00:13:04 | >> Reporter: A friend of victim
reeva steinkamp was also in
court.
|
| 00:13:08 | >> We prayed that justice will
prevail.
|
| 00:13:12 | And we're still just very sad
that we need to remember that
somebody's lost their live.
|
| 00:13:17 | >> Reporter: Now a relative's
home may be where pistorius will
have to stay these next weeks,
months, possibly more than a
year leading up to trial.
|
| 00:13:23 | The judge ruled he will have to
vendor his passports, guns,
can't use drugs or alcohol.
|
| 00:13:29 | Can't go back home.
|
| 00:13:30 | Needs permission to leave town.
|
| 00:13:31 | Will have to check in with
police twice a week starting
monday.
|
| 00:13:35 | This past week, pistorius's
agent canceled all his upcoming
races.
|
| 00:13:40 | Sponsors including nike
suspended their contract with
him.
|
| 00:13:43 | Yet his long time coach says he
wants him to start training
again immediately.
|
| 00:13:48 | >> I think just to get his mind
sort of clear.
|
| 00:13:51 | The sooner he can start the
better.
|
| 00:13:56 | >> Reporter: In court the judge
said he has difficulties with
parts of pistorius's story.
|
| 00:14:00 | Why he rushed toward where
pistorius claimed was terrifying
danger, didn't ask who was in
that bathroom, he fired into.
|
| 00:14:07 | Never went searching for his
girlfriend when he realized she
wasn't in bed.
|
| 00:14:11 | But he ruled that a free
pistorius is not a danger, and
in this case won't run.
|
| 00:14:20 | He doesn't have to be back in
court until june.
|
| 00:14:24 | And today an interview was
published in the south african
newspaper with the father of
reeva steinkamp who said the
only ones who really know what
happened that morning are oscar
pistorius and god and no matter
how much money he has, how great
his legal team is, he will have
to live with his conscience and
will suffer if he's not telling
the truth.
|
| 00:14:43 | If he is telling the truth, her
father said, he may one day be
able to forgive pistorius.
|
| 00:14:49 | Alex?
|
| 00:14:49 | >> Okay.
|
| 00:14:49 | Thank you so much from south
africa.
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| 00:18:16 | >>> Headlines making news out on
the west coast.
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| 00:18:19 | The oregonian front page story,
controversial tuition break
passes.
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| 00:18:22 | It's about the house passing a
bill to grant in-state tuition
breaks to undocumented oregon
high school graduates.
|
| 00:18:27 | The bill now goes to the senate
which approved similar past
bills.
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| 00:18:31 | The governor has promised to
sign it.
|
| 00:18:32 | >>> And the seattle times has a
story on a 1964 poeb mobile
which is on display now at a
tacoma museum.
|
| 00:18:40 | The stretch limousine carried
pope paul vi during a 1995 visit
to new york city.
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| 00:18:46 | It was the first time a reigning
pope ever came to the u.s.
|
| 00:18:51 | >>> Congress has six days to
avoid the sequester impacts.
|
| 00:18:59 | Evenly split between defense
spending and domestic spending.
|
| 00:19:02 | 2 trillion over
ten years, equal to $500 billion
in the defense department
budget, $1 billion to fema.
|
| 00:19:15 | More than $500 million in loan
guarantees to small businesses
would be cut.
|
| 00:19:20 | Joining me now, msnbc
contributor and managing editor
joann reid and white house
"washington post" reporter.
|
| 00:19:28 | Joann we'll go ladies first
here.
|
| 00:19:30 | What is the convention am wisdom
on this?
|
| 00:19:32 | Will an agreement be reached?
|
| 00:19:34 | >> You know what, the irony and
the problem is on the republican
side there are some republicans
I think who kind of favor the
sequester in a way.
|
| 00:19:42 | This is a way to get the
austerity that they've long
wanted, big sweeping budget
cuts.
|
| 00:19:47 | But at the same time, on a lot
of local levels you have
districts where those defense
cuts are really going to bite.
|
| 00:19:52 | So you have some folks that are
hoping for carve outs or hoping
to sort of avoid it for that
reason.
|
| 00:19:58 | It's kind of almost at this
point sort of a tossup.
|
| 00:20:01 | It's not clear where the
republicans in the house stand.
|
| 00:20:03 | >> David, what about the
political calculation here?
|
| 00:20:06 | As well as a policy calculation?
|
| 00:20:09 | Where does the white house fall
on both?
|
| 00:20:10 | >> You saw, alex, this week the
president came out on tuesday
and he had an event with first
responder emergency responders
saying their budgets are going
to be cut.
|
| 00:20:18 | Then the pentagon came out the
next day and said we're going to
have to lay off 800,000 civilian
workers or furlough them one day
a week.
|
| 00:20:26 | YESTERDAY YOU had LaHood, the
transportation secretary come to
the white house briefing room
and say we're going to have
delays in air traffic, shut down
air traffic control.
|
| 00:20:34 | This tactic is because the white
house recognizes they're trying
to sway public opinion and put
pressure from the outside on
republicans.
|
| 00:20:40 | It's interesting.
|
| 00:20:40 | A poll came out just this week
that said the vast majority of
americans don't know a lot about
these cuts that are coming down.
|
| 00:20:46 | The white house is trying to
change that.
|
| 00:20:48 | The white house is still
working, hoping for a deal.
|
| 00:20:50 | But I get a sense that most of
washington and probably even at
the white house they recognize
we could go past the sequester
at least for a few weeks, and
there's going to be another
chance late in march where the
continuing spending resolution
comes up or expires and they're
going to have to negotiate deal
on that.
|
| 00:21:06 | And it all could just be wrapped
up into one.
|
| 00:21:09 | >> David, I'm sure you read the
article in your paper penned by
bob woodward in which he writes
that it was in fact then omb
director jack lew who came up
with the sequester idea.
|
| 00:21:21 | In fact he has the exact time
and date when they first pitched
it to senator harry reid, july
27th, 2011.
|
| 00:21:29 | What's your read on that?
|
| 00:21:31 | >> Very detailed reporting by
bob woodward there.
|
| 00:21:34 | It's an interesting take.
|
| 00:21:35 | Certainly the republicans have
jumped on.
|
| 00:21:36 | It's been a debate over the last
few weeks about who -- actual
lit last few months about whose
idea this was.
|
| 00:21:43 | You have jack lew, the former
chief of staff to the president,
up for treasury secretary who
said it at a hearing.
|
| 00:21:50 | This was a republican idea.
|
| 00:21:51 | You see the president has sort
of hinted at that, too.
|
| 00:21:56 | More recently jay carney at the
white house has acknowledged
this isn't a white house idea.
|
| 00:21:58 | The republicans are making a big
issue of that.
|
| 00:22:00 | As much as the white house is
fanning the flames of concern
now, sounding the alarms this
week it was their idea.
|
| 00:22:05 | They're saying the president
needs to come and meet us and
sort of acknowledge we gave a
little bit on the fiscal cliff
on taxes and not going to do it
this time.
|
| 00:22:15 | That's the strategy the
republicans are using to pin it
on the white house.
|
| 00:22:20 | >> Joann, they're really blaming
the gop for the sequester.
|
| 00:22:24 | Really by the way does it matter
at this point who brought it up?
|
| 00:22:27 | Both sides signed on
>> exactly.
|
| 00:22:29 | It's funny that the argument
that republicans really are
choosing to sort of fight on the
hill on is whose idea was the
original sequester.
|
| 00:22:35 | The problem for them, of course,
many more republicans in the
house voted for the sequester
than democrats.
|
| 00:22:41 | Democrats were truly split on
it.
|
| 00:22:44 | 95-95.
|
| 00:22:45 | But in the house you had
republicans 174 of them voted
for it, only 66 voted no.
|
| 00:22:50 | In the senate you had a lot more
of the conservative senators
voting against it.
|
| 00:22:53 | They were saying because the
cuts were weren't draconian
enough.
|
| 00:22:57 | The white house in the way got
the better of the deal in this
sense.
|
| 00:22:59 | They were able to carve out
medicare, social security, those
weren't touched and food stamps
which usually republicans like
to cut those were left off the
table and are not subject to the
sequester.
|
| 00:23:08 | Meanwhile there were these
sweeping defense cuts which a
lot of people on the left
favored.
|
| 00:23:13 | The problem for democrats, of
course, is that the other across
the board cuts will hit a lot of
programs like home heating,
things that are really important
to particularly leb al mention.
|
| 00:23:21 | Everybody has some pain.
|
| 00:23:22 | But the idea was that these
things were so bad that no one
would ever let them happen.
|
| 00:23:28 | The problem is now there is an
intellectual argument coming
from the right that says no, we
want these things to happen.
|
| 00:23:34 | This is the only way to get
toward a balanced budget.
|
| 00:23:36 | You really do have a split
that's more on the right than
the left.
|
| 00:23:39 | >> It's interesting, because i
want to move on to florida with
you, joann.
|
| 00:23:45 | Gop governor rick scott doing a
180, now backing medicaid
expansion under the president's
health care law, a law that he
fiercely fought.
|
| 00:23:53 | Let's listen to how the governor
explained his switch on this
issue.
|
| 00:23:57 | >> While the federal government
is committed to paying 100% of
the cost, I cannot in good
conscience deny floridaance that
needed access to health care.
|
| 00:24:09 | We will support a three-year
expansion of our medicaid
program under the new health
care law.
|
| 00:24:16 | >> You covered florida for
years, joann.
|
| 00:24:18 | He says it's about his good
conscience.
|
| 00:24:20 | Is this about conscience or is
this politics?
|
| 00:24:22 | >> It's politics.
|
| 00:24:23 | Rick scott has really dismal
approval ratings.
|
| 00:24:26 | He's up for re-election in 2014.
|
| 00:24:28 | He's been softening a lot of
positions he's held going in.
|
| 00:24:31 | This guy is only known on the
national stage because he formed
a pac that ran commercials
against the idea of obama care.
|
| 00:24:36 | And then as governor he fought
the affordable care act all the
way to the supreme court, led
the states that sued to stop the
law.
|
| 00:24:42 | And has said really up until
even a couple of months ago he
would absolutely not do the
medicaid expansion.
|
| 00:24:48 | But the problem is, hospital
interest in florida stood to
lose something like $33 billion
3 million floridians
without insurance coverage
couldn't also get medicaid.
|
| 00:24:59 | Without medicaid you have a lot
of people who would show up at
, about a million of
3 million, who could get
care uncompensated by the
federal government.
|
| 00:25:08 | So hospital interests have
really pushed republicans
including scott to take this
money.
|
| 00:25:12 | And it's not an if it's three
years, it is three years.
|
| 00:25:15 | That's what the law said.
|
| 00:25:16 | They're getting 100%.
|
| 00:25:17 | Florida just couldn't afford to
say no because hospital
interests would go bankrupt
literally if they didn't take
it.
|
| 00:25:23 | >> Guys unfortunately I have to
wrap this.
|
| 00:25:25 | This is going down in ohio.
|
| 00:25:27 | We have a republican john case
doing the exact same thing,
expanding medicaid.
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| 00:32:44 | >>> New today, president obama
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weekend reaching out to
legislators trying to resolve
the sequester fight.
|
| 00:32:51 | That's our strategy talk today.
|
| 00:32:54 | Peggy noonan is writing that
president is using scare tactics
to get his way on the sequester.
|
| 00:32:58 | But with the latest polls
showing the majority of the
public backs the president's
plans for all of the biggest
issues, is he really just giving
the people who they voted for?
|
| 00:33:07 | Joining me now is tony fratta,
white house press secretary
bush
and morris reid of gbr group.
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| 00:33:17 | Good to see you both.
|
| 00:33:20 | >> Hey, alex.
|
| 00:33:21 | >> Tony, on the deficit, guns,
immigration, climate change, the
president's plans all have a
really comfortable lead there.
|
| 00:33:31 | The republicans talked a lot
about learning lessons from the
elections and evolving their
policies.
|
| 00:33:35 | Has anything really changed?
|
| 00:33:36 | >> It's not about how issues
poll, alex.
|
| 00:33:39 | If we had based it solely on
polling, obama care never would
have gotten done, right?
|
| 00:33:45 | We still have to search for a
poll that would show the
majority of americans anywhere
that supported the president's
plan on health care reform.
|
| 00:33:51 | So the real test of a president
and his team is how can they
build coalitions in congress to
get done the things that they
want to get done.
|
| 00:33:57 | And we're not seeing a lot of
success in that right now with
the president on the sequester,
certainly not on climate change.
|
| 00:34:04 | And a lot of questions as to
whether he's going to be able to
be effective doing it on
immigration reform.
|
| 00:34:09 | I'd love to see us get
immigration reform done.
|
| 00:34:12 | I'm more pro immigration than
the president.
|
| 00:34:14 | I want to see a plan get done,
but he doesn't make it easy.
|
| 00:34:17 | >> Tony tony tony.
|
| 00:34:18 | >> There's no question about
that, morris.
|
| 00:34:20 | >> Listen.
|
| 00:34:21 | I know you're pro immigration.
|
| 00:34:23 | More than the president I'm not
for sure.
|
| 00:34:24 | >> For sure.
|
| 00:34:25 | >> Listen.
|
| 00:34:25 | I have to tell you.
|
| 00:34:26 | The republicans would have more
credibility on this if george
bush didn't use 9/11 as scare
TACTICS, IF mitch McConnell
didn't say his number one
objective is to not have barack
obama re-elected.
|
| 00:34:37 | The problem comes across as if
they will do anything in order
to make sure that this president
isn't successful.
|
| 00:34:44 | They tried to stop re-election.
|
| 00:34:45 | He's now re-elected.
|
| 00:34:46 | Now they're trying to stop him
in his pursuit of policy.
|
| 00:34:51 | So alex, it's like they'll work
with him at any cost.
|
| 00:34:54 | >> Okay.
|
| 00:34:55 | I'm curious do you think there's
a chance, morris, of the
president overplaying his hand?
|
| 00:34:59 | While his approval numbers are
high right now they have dropped
about 4% just in the last month
and a half or so.
|
| 00:35:05 | So do you think there's a chance
that he is overplaying things?
|
| 00:35:08 | Is there an indication of that
being true?
|
| 00:35:12 | >> Well, alex, I'm a ron brown
democrat.
|
| 00:35:15 | He always taught me it's never
as good as you think or bad as
you think.
|
| 00:35:19 | Of course sometimes we overplay
our hands as democrats that's
what republicans do it at times.
|
| 00:35:23 | We absolutely have to get
something done.
|
| 00:35:25 | Believe it or not, the president
will be judged as a successful
president if he turns the
economy around.
|
| 00:35:30 | So we can do all the posturing
and filibustering and blame
these guys.
|
| 00:35:34 | If we don't move the needle on
the economy, he will not be
judged as a successful
president.
|
| 00:35:39 | >> Go ahead, alex.
|
| 00:35:40 | >> No, you go ahead.
|
| 00:35:41 | >> I think we need to find a way
to do it in more of a -- some
kind of spirit of trust on this,
morris, though.
|
| 00:35:47 | I think we're getting to a
really difficult place here
between both houses of congress
and the white house in their
ability to function on these
issues.
|
| 00:35:58 | I've actually optimistic we are
going to get something done on
immigration reform.
|
| 00:36:01 | I'm not optimistic about almost
any other issue that's going to
come before the congress for the
rest of this year, maybe into
2014.
|
| 00:36:09 | I just don't see the incentives
on either side and trust and
ability to get deals to get
anything done.
|
| 00:36:15 | >> Trust, ability, incentive.
|
| 00:36:16 | A lot of that is based on
leverage.
|
| 00:36:19 | As I've mentioned today, tony,
republicans in congress have an
approval rating of oh, 25%.
|
| 00:36:26 | So with numbers like that what
is their leverage beyond these
self-created crises of the
sequester?
|
| 00:36:34 | >> It's compartmentalized with
republicans.
|
| 00:36:36 | Looking at national numbers on
republicans.
|
| 00:36:38 | Don't get me wrong.
|
| 00:36:38 | I'd love to seat national
republican party polling better.
|
| 00:36:42 | No question about that.
|
| 00:36:42 | But if you look at the districts
that republicans are in, there
is a view that they are popular
in their district.
|
| 00:36:50 | When the president goes out and
attacks republicans, there are
some republicans out there who
say can you please come to my
district and attack me here.
|
| 00:36:58 | >> Tony it's funny to hear you
say this.
|
| 00:37:01 | Republicans actually lost seats
in the congress but gained
because of gerrymandering.
|
| 00:37:06 | It's just -- as you know in this
business you can screw the
numbers any way you want.
|
| 00:37:09 | You guys are playing small ball.
|
| 00:37:11 | And you're falling into some of
the pitfalls that the president
is laying for you.
|
| 00:37:14 | Here's the real challenge for
the president.
|
| 00:37:16 | And really this is what you do
when you play offense.
|
| 00:37:19 | You move the issues -- you move
needle on big issues.
|
| 00:37:22 | Go above the party's head.
|
| 00:37:23 | But you have to find some common
ground.
|
| 00:37:26 | If you don't find common ground
you use the executive order.
|
| 00:37:29 | I know my republican friends
hate to hear that.
|
| 00:37:32 | Just as the republicans with
george bush used it to move his
agenda, the president will grow
tired of trying to deal with
these guys and move to executive
order to move the economy
forward.
|
| 00:37:42 | >> I'm a big executive branch
guy, morris.
|
| 00:37:44 | I love executive orders.
|
| 00:37:46 | And I understand the president
is going to try to do that.
|
| 00:37:48 | >> You know what, morris, I want
to go with what peggy noonan
wrote in her column here.
|
| 00:37:54 | In a way it's all brilliant show
biz, scare people into
supporting your position.
|
| 00:37:59 | But we've been through it
before.
|
| 00:38:01 | You wonder again why a
triumphant president and a
battered republican house
majority can't reach a
responsible agreement.
|
| 00:38:11 | You remind yourself, why because
mr. obama thrives in chaos.
|
| 00:38:14 | >> You know, I respect her
prose.
|
| 00:38:16 | She is a very eloquent writer.
|
| 00:38:18 | Why wasn't she writing those
same prose when george bush was
irresponsibly saying that if the
democrats were re-elected it
would be more 9/11s happening
here every day?
|
| 00:38:26 | She has absolutely no
credibility.
|
| 00:38:28 | And this goes to the heart of
what they're trying to do.
|
| 00:38:31 | They're trying tear this
president down at any cost.
|
| 00:38:33 | This is good politics.
|
| 00:38:34 | This is what they wish they
could do.
|
| 00:38:36 | And the fact that they can't
it's absurd that they're trying
to turn it around as if he is
the reason that we're having the
chaos.
|
| 00:38:43 | >> I think the president's just
using the tools in his tool box
to try to message on this.
|
| 00:38:47 | Both sides are going to try to
message on this as best they
can.
|
| 00:38:51 | This what is the president's
going to do.
|
| 00:38:53 | To call it scare tactics, you
can call it whatever you want.
|
| 00:38:57 | The president is standing with
first responders and the
military and the air traffic
controller.
|
| 00:39:04 | >> The president does these
things, tony, because he won the
election.
|
| 00:39:08 | He set an agenda.
|
| 00:39:09 | The american public agrees with
our agenda.
|
| 00:39:13 | Could you guys stop rehashing
the election?
|
| 00:39:16 | >> Morris, you're rehashing the
election.
|
| 00:39:21 | >> The congress's responsibility
is to follow.
|
| 00:39:23 | This is not parliamentary.
|
| 00:39:25 | >> It's not the way the
government works, morris.
|
| 00:39:28 | >> There's checks and balances
no.
|
| 00:39:30 | A parliamentary system.
|
| 00:39:32 | The president it not your equal.
|
| 00:39:33 | >> Morris, I dealt with a
democratic majority in congress
also, right?
|
| 00:39:36 | I can tell you that was not the
view of the democratic
leadership when they took
control of congress in 2006.
|
| 00:39:44 | So I think it's where you sit is
where you stand on some of these
things.
|
| 00:39:48 | The president is only going to
get to be president for less
than another four years.
|
| 00:39:53 | Republicans were here before,
republicans will be here after
his presidency.
|
| 00:39:56 | He needs to ask himself, is this
the way he wants his presidency
to go or does he want to find
compromise solutions by the
way --
[ overlapping speakers ]
>> I have something, a news
flash for you.
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two-term president.
|
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two-term democrat in the white
house.
|
| 00:40:22 | >> She has a lot of experience
being the presumed next
president.
|
| 00:40:25 | >> Wow, morris, did you have to
start that so early?
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| 00:40:30 | Up
[ overlapping speakers ]
>> four years left of barack
obama.
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| 00:40:32 | I just wanted to be clear we're
going to have 12 years left of a
democratic presidency to deal
with.
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| 00:40:36 | So tony get used to this.
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| 00:40:43 | [ Overlapping speakers ]
>> those are future battles,
morris.
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| 00:40:47 | Let's try to deal with the ones
in front of us now.
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| 00:40:50 | >> If you guys will play your
role we might be able to get
something done.
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| 00:40:53 | >> Anything else?
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| 00:40:55 | Okay we're done.
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| 00:40:56 | Morris reid.
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| 00:40:57 | >> I love tony, by the way.
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| 00:41:00 | He's fantastic.
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| 00:41:00 | >> Same here, morris.
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| 00:41:01 | >> Thanks, you guys.
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| 00:41:02 | Appreciate it.
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| 00:41:03 | >>> In today's office politics,
former new york city mayor david
dinkins discusses his long-term
relationship with the clip tons.
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| 00:41:13 | First I ask what he thinks
motivates people to come out
against president obama.
|
| 00:41:18 | >> I think some degree of it has
to be race.
|
| 00:41:21 | Sad to say.
|
| 00:41:24 | But it's a fact.
|
| 00:41:27 | See, in my day we never
envisioned there would be a
black mayor of new york city,
much less president of the
country.
|
| 00:41:35 | And there are some who still
can't stomach it, it seems,
because barack obama is a very
gifted, accomplished political
figure.
|
| 00:41:46 | And he's smart.
|
| 00:41:48 | And people may disagree with him
from time to time about policy
issues.
|
| 00:41:53 | But I mean, what could be more
ridiculous than my friend donald
trump with his birther nonsense?
|
| 00:42:02 | Demands for his birth
certificate?
|
| 00:42:05 | I mean, it's ridiculous.
|
| 00:42:06 | >> Being the first black mayor
of new york city, what was
significant about that
accomplishment to you?
|
| 00:42:12 | >> One in the sense it had never
heretofore occurred, I had a lot
of shoulders on which I stood.
|
| 00:42:18 | I supported jesse jackson in '84
and in '88.
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| 00:42:22 | And in '88 we registered a lot
of people in new york city that
voted for jesse.
|
| 00:42:27 | Those same people came out and
voted for me in '89.
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| 00:42:34 | So I recognize they owe a large
degree of my success not only to
him but to many others,
especially percy sutton who in
1977 said to me one day he was
going to run for mayor.
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| 00:42:49 | I said really?
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| 00:42:50 | Mayor of new york?
|
| 00:42:51 | I mean, black man running for
mayor?
|
| 00:42:53 | Because percy always had vision.
|
| 00:42:55 | >> He paved the way.
|
| 00:42:56 | >> Oh, no question about it.
|
| 00:43:00 | When hillary ran for the senate
here in new york, as you will
recall, there were those that
suggested she was a carpet
bagger and on and on.
|
| 00:43:09 | But charlie rangel and I and a
lot of others supported her
candidacy.
|
| 00:43:13 | mayor, the reaction from
people when you said, I'm
supporting hillary clinton over
barack obama.
|
| 00:43:19 | How did that go down?
|
| 00:43:21 | >> Well, they're not often but
there were those who said, how
can you support the lady against
the brother?
|
| 00:43:32 | And I said, friendship and
loyalty.
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| 00:43:34 | She and bill clinton had been
kind and helpful to me.
|
| 00:43:38 | And moreover, I didn't live in
illinois.
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| 00:43:41 | I'm a new york resident.
|
| 00:43:42 | And she was my senator.
|
| 00:43:44 | >> The likely scenarios for
2016, do they include hillary
clinton in a run for the
presidency?
|
| 00:43:51 | >> I think so.
|
| 00:43:54 | I continue to believe that she
is way up there on the list of
those persons who might seek the
democratic nomination.
|
| 00:44:01 | And has a far greater chance of
success at one, becoming a
democratic nominee, and then of
course being elected president.
|
| 00:44:10 | First woman president of the
united states.
|
| 00:44:11 | >> You've been married how long
now?
|
| 00:44:15 | >> It will be 60 years come
AUGUST 30th.
|
| 00:44:24 | And we're planning now a big
celebration.
|
| 00:44:30 | You're hereby invited.
|
| 00:44:33 | >> Thank you.
|
| 00:44:34 | >> And I will probably tell the
story of the ditch digger.
|
| 00:44:39 | My bride and I are riding along
in the citousine when I was
a mayor.
|
| 00:44:46 | See a fellow with a shovel
digging a ditch.
|
| 00:44:51 | I said, joyce -- that's her name
joyce.
|
| 00:44:53 | Isn't that the fellow you used
to date?
|
| 00:44:55 | Not knocking the fellow because
he's a ditch digger, but I said,
see, if you'd married him you'd
be the wife of a ditch digger.
|
| 00:45:03 | She said no, if I'd married him
he'd be mayor.
|
| 00:45:06 | >> That is so good!
|
| 00:45:11 | Most people who are grandparents
say it's even better than
parenting.
|
| 00:45:14 | >> Absolutely.
|
| 00:45:14 | >> Why?
|
| 00:45:15 | >> I don't know.
|
| 00:45:15 | A whole lot of mistakes you made
with the children you correct.
|
| 00:45:19 | Our son swears that I have
mellowed over time.
|
| 00:45:23 | He said when he was little, he
said I was really severe.
|
| 00:45:27 | And I said no, man.
|
| 00:45:29 | The reason you think that is
because you remember your mother
saying wait until your father
comes home.
|
| 00:45:37 | But I'm the same pussy cat now i
was then.
|
| 00:45:41 | >> Do you think those that
opposed you in office would call
you a pussy cat?
|
| 00:45:46 | >> Maybe not.
|
| 00:45:47 | >> You may have noticed that
photo.
|
| 00:45:49 | Indeed that was nelson mandela
holding the mayor's grand baby
at the time, some 22 years ago.
|
| 00:45:55 | >>> And tomorrow at this time
the mayor discusses the highs
and lows of his tenure of mayor
of new york including the crown
heights riots.
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| 00:49:55 | Among those protesting the
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| 00:50:03 | And hannah is joining me from
l.a. to discuss this issue.
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| 00:50:06 | Daryl, welcome.
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| 00:50:07 | >> Thank you.
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| 00:50:07 | >> Look, I know you've been
arrested several times
protesting this pipeline.
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| 00:50:12 | Tell me why you were so
passionately opposed to this
project.
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| 00:50:16 | >> Well, the keystone xl
pipeline, export pipeline, is
really a conduit for further
expansion of the dirtiest,
largest industrial mine on the
planet.
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| 00:50:30 | And right now it's about the
size of the city of chicago, and
they plan to expand it to the
size of the state of florida.
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| 00:50:38 | This pipeline is intended to get
its product to the gulf of
mexico for export.
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| 00:50:45 | This is not fuel for the united
states.
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| 00:50:47 | We're already processing that
fuel in oklahoma, but they want
to by pass oklahoma to get it
down to the gulf because they
aren't able to get it to the
coast in canada since the
indigenous communities have
stopped it from going through
their lands.
|
| 00:51:00 | >> So this is not the only oil
pipeline project in the country.
|
| 00:51:03 | What is it about this one that
makes it different and -- is it
the size or you're talking about
the dirty environmental issues?
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| 00:51:11 | I mean, what is it that makes
this one so volatile?
|
| 00:51:15 | >> Well, there's a number of
issues.
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| 00:51:18 | Not the least of which is that
first of all this is not
conventional crude.
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| 00:51:22 | This is tar sand sludge.
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| 00:51:23 | It has to be heated.
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| 00:51:26 | It's called bitamin.
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| 00:51:28 | It has to be heated to 150
degrees to get it to move
through the pipe.
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| 00:51:32 | It's a very corrosive substance.
|
| 00:51:35 | They had 12 spills in the first
12 months.
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| 00:51:37 | Numerous issues.
|
| 00:51:38 | It holds no benefits for us.
|
| 00:51:40 | We would inherit all the risk.
|
| 00:51:42 | But the main reason obviously is
even the world bank issued a
report last week that if we
don't do something urgently,
urgently, to address the climate
crisis, that we are looking at
major systems collapse,
extinctions, dislocation and
massive suffering if we don't
address this.
|
| 00:52:04 | So we have an ethical
responsibility.
|
| 00:52:07 | And the tar sands projects is an
extremely carbon intensive
producing mine.
|
| 00:52:15 | >> But daryl, you're talking
about there's no benefits.
|
| 00:52:18 | I imagine you're speaking purely
from an environmental ecological
standpoint.
|
| 00:52:22 | >> No, no.
|
| 00:52:22 | I'm speaking from every
standpoint.
|
| 00:52:24 | There's been a lot of
mischaracterizations that this
is going to provide a lot of
jobs.
|
| 00:52:29 | Been mischaracterized as being
something that will provide fuel
for the united states.
|
| 00:52:33 | But this is an export pipeline.
|
| 00:52:35 | The fuel that we're already
receiving from the tar sands is
being refined in oklahoma.
|
| 00:52:40 | They need to get it to the coast
so that they can get $20 a
barrel more for it to export it.
|
| 00:52:48 | >> If there's nothing, I mean,
what are the benefits of this
project?
|
| 00:52:52 | I can't imagine that there's
nothing.
|
| 00:52:54 | >> That's a great question.
|
| 00:52:56 | >> No economic benefits?
|
| 00:52:57 | >> The economic benefits are
there for the coke brothers and
the people who own the
refineries down in the gulf of
mexico.
|
| 00:53:02 | That's it.
|
| 00:53:03 | That's why there's been such a
massive disinformation campaign
to confuse people that this has
something to do with our gas
prices.
|
| 00:53:11 | In fact, the studies show --
there's an independent study on
jobs if you want to look it up
from cornell.
|
| 00:53:16 | There's a study that shows that
in fact this might even make our
gas prices rise because the
amount of gas that they're going
to be shipping to india, perhaps
china, will actually lessen the
amount of gas that we refine in
oklahoma from those -- from that
same project.
|
| 00:53:36 | >> Can you give me a sense, if
you have one, of what the
president's going to do?
|
| 00:53:40 | He's postponed making a decision
on the pipeline already.
|
| 00:53:42 | >> That's right.
|
| 00:53:43 | Well, the president is getting a
lot of financial pressure and
pressure from lobbyists, the
wealthiest corporations on the
planet, oil companies, are
putting a lot of pressure on him
to approve this pipeline.
|
| 00:53:54 | They have a vested interest.
|
| 00:53:55 | They will make billions of
dollars.
|
| 00:53:57 | But people, ranchers, farmers,
people who are traditionally
considered conservative and
people who are liberal, are
fighting this thing.
|
| 00:54:04 | Because we know it's not in our
best interests.
|
| 00:54:07 | It will go right through our
aquifers, our vital water
resource systems which we know
we cannot jeopardize since we
have massive drought and that's
projected to continue and
wildfires and crop yields are
going down.
|
| 00:54:19 | This is not something we can
risk just to have a benefit for
some billionaires who are going
to make more money if they get
their product to export.
|
| 00:54:27 | And that's what we really --
it's important to do the
research and understand the
reality of the situation.
|
| 00:54:32 | Because how it's being presented
to us and sold to us is not what
the truth of the situation is.
|
| 00:54:39 | >> Well, actress, active it
daryl hannah, I'm really glad
for your insights.
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| 00:54:43 | Thank you so much for sharing
them with us.
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| 00:54:45 | >> Thank you, alex.
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here in the
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| 01:01:18 | We begin in pretoria, south
africa where olympic star oscar
pistorius is spending his first
day out of jail.
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| 01:01:25 | This is the car driving
pistorius into the home of his
uncle yesterday after hearing
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| 01:01:33 | Let's go to nbc's michelle
crazinski.
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| 01:01:38 | Michelle, give us a sense of
what today must be like for
pistorius.
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| 01:01:42 | >> Reporter: Well, he hasn't
been seen today.
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| 01:01:44 | We know that he went to the home
of his uncle.
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| 01:01:47 | Everyone's assuming that he's
still there.
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| 01:01:49 | He does have a lot of
restrictions placed on him.
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| 01:01:52 | It seemed like the judge really
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then.
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| 01:02:36 | We guess that he might show up
there with his attorney.
|
| 01:02:39 | But I think what's really
interesting today is that for
the first time, we're hearing a
lot of comment from rehave seen reeva
steinkamp's family.
|
| 01:02:58 | He said the only ones who know
what happened was pistorius and
god.
|
| 01:03:02 | He said no matter how great his
legal team is he's going to have
to live with his conscience.
|
| 01:03:07 | He will suffer if he's not
telling the truth.
|
| 01:03:09 | If he has been telling the
truth, her father said that one
day he thinks he may be able to
forgive him.
|
| 01:03:15 | So that was sort of the news
that we heard coming from her
side of the family.
|
| 01:03:20 | We really haven't heard much
from them before.
|
| 01:03:21 | They've been in a deep state of
mourning.
|
| 01:03:24 | Pistorius's family has also been
extremely emotional and they
expressed a lot of relief once
that bail ruling was announced
yesterday, alex.
|
| 01:03:31 | >> Yes.
|
| 01:03:31 | You know, michelle, here we have
you leading the show.
|
| 01:03:36 | You've been leading nightly
newscasts.
|
| 01:03:38 | I can only imagine right there
what this coverage is like.
|
| 01:03:40 | Can you put that in perspective
for us?
|
| 01:03:44 | Is it everywhere?
|
| 01:03:45 | >> Reporter: Sort of.
|
| 01:03:46 | I mean, it hasn't been kind of a
mad crush that you might see
with -- I didn't cover the o.j.
|
| 01:03:52 | Simpson trial.
|
| 01:03:52 | I know there have been a lot of
comparisons made between that
and this preliminary.
|
| 01:03:57 | Since this has not gone to trial
yet.
|
| 01:03:58 | But there was the mad crush of
press from around the world.
|
| 01:04:02 | Everybody literally pushing and
shoving.
|
| 01:04:05 | One journalist passed out one
day.
|
| 01:04:06 | Because remember, it's close to
100 degrees here.
|
| 01:04:09 | And waiting outside to get in.
|
| 01:04:12 | It's all over the newspapers and
television here.
|
| 01:04:15 | Gigantic pictures on the front
pages.
|
| 01:04:18 | Sensational headlines.
|
| 01:04:19 | And I think what's been most
interesting is seeing debate on
the street.
|
| 01:04:24 | I was walking to our satellite
truck from our live shot the
other day, and I saw this group
of people making a lot of noise.
|
| 01:04:30 | I kind of wondered oh, I wonder
what that's about.
|
| 01:04:32 | It sounded like they were in a
big fight.
|
| 01:04:34 | As I got closer, they were
arguing about this case.
|
| 01:04:37 | Did they believe pistorius's
story or not.
|
| 01:04:40 | Trying to re-enact part of it.
|
| 01:04:42 | How could this have been?
|
| 01:04:43 | And they were so passionate
about it.
|
| 01:04:46 | That really told me how much
people in the community care
about this.
|
| 01:04:49 | They want to see how it turns
out.
|
| 01:04:51 | But they also want to see
justice done.
|
| 01:04:54 | And just like rehave steenkamp's
father says, the only account we
really know from somebody who
was at that scene was is oscar
pistorius.
|
| 01:05:07 | >>> Let's go to politics now.
|
| 01:05:09 | New today president obama is
urging congress to compromise
with just six days until the
sequester triggers those massive
budget cuts.
|
| 01:05:15 | Republicans say it's the
president who won't budge.
|
| 01:05:18 | >> They can cut spending in a
smart way and close wasteful
loopholes for the well off and
well-connected.
|
| 01:05:28 | Unfortunately it appears that
republicans in congress have
decided that instead of
compromising, instead of asking
anything of the wealthiest
americans, they'd rather let
these cuts fall squarely on the
middle class.
|
| 01:05:37 | >> President obama, however, not
only wants higher taxes, he's
actually preventing economic
growth and private sector job
creation.
|
| 01:05:45 | He is blocking it with more
regulation, red tape and
bureaucracy.
|
| 01:05:52 | >> Joining me now political
news and
world report" and msnbc
contributor.
|
| 01:05:58 | Hello to the both of you.
|
| 01:06:00 | So let's look at the calendar
here, lauren.
|
| 01:06:02 | Six days now away from the
sequester.
|
| 01:06:04 | Give me your assessment.
|
| 01:06:06 | Is this a foregone conclusion?
|
| 01:06:08 | >> I think we are definitely
going to see sequestration
happen.
|
| 01:06:11 | But there's going to be a lot of
drama next week.
|
| 01:06:14 | We're going to turn to the
senate.
|
| 01:06:15 | Republicans and democrats are
both expected or democrats have
already introduced legislation
that they're going vote on.
|
| 01:06:21 | So democrats want to see 50-50
replacement of the sequester
with 50% spending cuts and 50%
tax increases through new
revenues.
|
| 01:06:32 | So we're going to see them vote
on that.
|
| 01:06:36 | And republicans have even kind
of thrown around this idea that
maybe they'll pass a bill that
would give the president more
onus over the cuts so that he
could kind of pick where those
cuts would go.
|
| 01:06:43 | It would also kind of make him
more politically vulnerable when
it came to sequestration.
|
| 01:06:50 | >> George will suggesting the
sequester is manufactured.
|
| 01:06:52 | Here's what he wroets.
|
| 01:06:54 | "Sensible americans, tuckered
out with apocalypsefatigue, are
yawning through the catastrophe
"
how much of the sequester drama
is manufactured?
|
| 01:07:05 | And even if some of it is,
aren't regular americans going
to feel it, anyway?
|
| 01:07:09 | >> Yes.
|
| 01:07:09 | I think he's wrong about this.
|
| 01:07:10 | I mean, there are two things i
would say.
|
| 01:07:12 | One, if you go look at the local
newspapers in virginia, in
wisconsin, the local news, I've
done a little bit of this.
|
| 01:07:20 | You can see people on the front
pages of the papers have the
sequester on the news.
|
| 01:07:24 | I don't think it's being ignored
in regular america, in part
because so many people work for
the federal government.
|
| 01:07:29 | The second thing is, it actually
does affect real people.
|
| 01:07:32 | Starting in april a lot of
federal workers, like 1 million
federal workers will face these
fur lows.
|
| 01:07:37 | They actually really matter.
|
| 01:07:41 | Particularly in virginia and
maryland, states where a lot of
spending comes from the federal
government.
|
| 01:07:44 | I don't think this is a
manufactured crisis at all.
|
| 01:07:46 | >> Okay.
|
| 01:07:48 | Lauren, let's look at polls.
|
| 01:07:50 | Usa today, pew poll shows
republicans widely in favor of
president obama's approach on
the sequester.
|
| 01:07:55 | On the other hand you have
republicans, some of them tea
partiers, they feel beholden to
their local constituents to not
raise taxes another penny.
|
| 01:08:05 | So does neither party have
incentive to resolve the
sequester fight quickly?
|
| 01:08:08 | >> You know, nationally in that
same pew poll it showed that
republicans in the house of
representatives had about 25% of
the american support.
|
| 01:08:17 | But back in their districts they
are very popular.
|
| 01:08:19 | And they have campaigned on this
issue of not raising taxes, not
getting new revenue because they
think every time we get new
revenue the president just
spends it.
|
| 01:08:28 | So democrats are dug in and
republicans are dug in I don't
really think there's much
incentive here for either side
to compromise on this issue.
|
| 01:08:34 | Because it's popular with both
their constituencies.
|
| 01:08:37 | >> So compromise, perry.
|
| 01:08:39 | Where does this lie?
|
| 01:08:41 | Does it lie around loopholes,
closing them or allowing them to
close?
|
| 01:08:45 | >> There's a couple of things
going on here.
|
| 01:08:47 | The first is that you can really
imagine that something happening
ON APRIL 1st.
|
| 01:08:52 | The big deadline is not march
1st but march 27th when the
current funding for the
government runs out.
|
| 01:08:57 | You can imagine some kind of
agreement that reaches a sort of
nails the sequester and
government funding into one bill
and has some spending cuts but
not the kind of draconian ones
in the sequester.
|
| 01:09:08 | The core issue is at taxes.
|
| 01:09:10 | Taxes taxes taxes.
|
| 01:09:11 | The republicans do not want to
increase taxes twice in three
months.
|
| 01:09:14 | The president is basically
saying, I want on raising taxes
more and I'm going to keep
insisting upon that.
|
| 01:09:19 | And the public is with me
because most polls so that the
public would like a deal that
includes tax increases as well
as spending cuts.
|
| 01:09:27 | So the president is not going to
take a republican issue when the
republicans have a 14% approval
rating and president has 55%
approval rating up.
|
| 01:09:36 | Hard to concede when you're that
popular and president of the
united states.
|
| 01:09:39 | >> Lauren, for once there are no
political winners in washington.
|
| 01:09:42 | That is the title of your latest
news and
world report" on the sequester.
|
| 01:09:46 | What do you mean by that?
|
| 01:09:47 | >> When the president has been
out kind of explaining how
detrimental these cuts are going
to be.
|
| 01:09:53 | And I think that maybe part of
this is he knows it's going to
happen.
|
| 01:09:56 | So he's going to go out, get the
public opinion on his side.
|
| 01:10:00 | But what's tough is that if this
actually happens and it does
affect the economy the way that
some people have said it might,
nobody wins here, right?
|
| 01:10:08 | The president looks bad.
|
| 01:10:09 | Because when the economy tanks
everyone in america looks at the
white house and says this is
your fault.
|
| 01:10:14 | But at the same time, people may
blame the republicans because
they didn't do anything to
prevent it in terms of people
have the opinion that they're
obstructionist.
|
| 01:10:23 | So I think both side here are
politically liable if the
economy tanks with this.
|
| 01:10:28 | >> Perry, people always say the
president didn't reach out
enough to capitol hill, to
democrats and certainly
republicans.
|
| 01:10:36 | In fact he did make calls on
thursday to house speaker
boehner, senate minority leader
McCONNELL.
|
| 01:10:42 | Did those calls yeed anything?
|
| 01:10:43 | >> No.
|
| 01:10:44 | Those calls are purely about
optics.
|
| 01:10:46 | The president was criticized
earlier this time week by
republicans he's not reaching
out.
|
| 01:10:50 | He made these sort of
perfunctory calls.
|
| 01:10:53 | The reality is there's a
fundamental difference on
positions here.
|
| 01:10:56 | The republicans do not want tax
increases.
|
| 01:10:58 | President obama does.
|
| 01:11:01 | It doesn't matter how much prose
tries to sweet talk them that's
not the problem.
|
| 01:11:04 | It's the fundamental difference
on issues.
|
| 01:11:06 | >> Okay.
|
| 01:11:07 | ,
nice you guys.
|
| 01:11:17 | Thanks so much.
|
| 01:11:17 | >>> The effects of sequester
that could show up at
dinnertime.
|
| 01:11:22 | I'm going to speak with
congresswoman particular sha
blackburn about what the gop can
do to deal with cuts.
|
| 01:11:29 | >>> The windy city got about
four inches of heavy snow, the
most accumulation in the
northern suburbs.
|
| 01:11:34 | Moving to kansas, the snow is
way too much for the roof at
this local business.
|
| 01:11:38 | The auto shop has been around
for about 60 years.
|
| 01:11:42 | But it's still too soon to tell
if that building is a complete
loss.
|
| 01:11:45 | Although we did get our tapes
mixed up there.
|
| 01:11:47 | I think that was about the
rockies which are expected to
get 6 to 9 inches of snow today
from a storm that will move into
the early m into the midwest by
early next week.
|
| 01:11:59 | >>> And check out this dog that
found itself stranded on ice
floes there.
|
| 01:12:06 | The dog jumping from one ice
fragment to another yesterday.
|
| 01:12:09 | This is all happening in lake
michigan.
|
| 01:12:11 | A resident who sought dog put on
a wetsuit, went out on a kayak
to try to rescue the pooch.
|
| 01:12:17 | The dog was like I am out of
here.
|
| 01:12:19 | I'm run off on my own and was
eventually rescued.
|
| 01:12:21 | It spent the night in animal
control shelter.
|
| 01:12:24 | Is expected to be reunited with
its owner sometime today.
|
| 01:12:27 | Talk about a lucky dog, right?
|
| 01:12:29 | >>> The journalist who spoke to
who took out
osama bin laden and why the
pentagon is investigating that
american hero.
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| 01:15:59 | >>> the pentagon has grounded
all 51 of its f 35 fighter
planes after a routine
inspection found a cracked
engine blade.
|
| 01:16:07 | It is the most expensive war
plane ever.
|
| 01:16:10 | The pentagon plans to buy 4500
of them for $10 billion.
|
| 01:16:17 | The f 35 is the subject of our
quote of the week from a piece
in "time" magazine.
|
| 01:16:23 | Former pentagon chief weapons
tester tom kristi saying
"there's always this sexual
drive for a new airplane on the
part of each service,
"
>>> it was reported this week
the pentagon is now
investigating the former
six team member who
admitted in an interview with
esquire magazine he was the one
who killed osama bin laden.
|
| 01:16:43 | The pentagon is looking into
whether any classified
information was leaked in the
now controversial article.
|
| 01:16:48 | Joining me now, the man who
interviewed the shooter, phil
bronstein, executive chairman of
the center for investigative
reporting.
|
| 01:16:55 | Phil, welcome.
|
| 01:16:56 | Nice to see you.
|
| 01:16:57 | >> Thanks for having me.
|
| 01:16:58 | >> Let's get your reaction first
of all the pentagon
investigating the man you
interviewed.
|
| 01:17:03 | Are you surprised by that?
|
| 01:17:04 | >> The pentagon has its job to
do.
|
| 01:17:06 | I think it came up at a press
briefing where a spokesman for
the bg was asked what they're
doing about it.
|
| 01:17:11 | I think what they said is
they're reviewing it to see if
there were any problems.
|
| 01:17:16 | In fact, the special operations
command which oversees special
operations including s.e.a.l.
|
| 01:17:22 | Team six has already said they
don't really see much of a
problem in there in term of
classified information.
|
| 01:17:27 | And keep in mind, alex, there
have been movies, there have
been books, there have been
other articles, there have been
documentaries all about the
raid.
|
| 01:17:36 | There's very little.
|
| 01:17:37 | It's passed into kind of
american folklore at this point.
|
| 01:17:40 | There's really very little
that's new.
|
| 01:17:42 | What's new in the esquire story
was essentially this guy's
perspective.
|
| 01:17:47 | >> Was he saying to you when you
were doing the interview, did he
say look, I can't talk about
this because it's classified?
|
| 01:17:52 | Was he aware of that?
|
| 01:17:53 | Did he make that clear to you?
|
| 01:17:55 | >> Yeah.
|
| 01:17:56 | I mean it was an evolution.
|
| 01:17:58 | An evolution that took place
over about a year and a quarter
where he wanted to talk about it
but he really wanted to talk
about this larger issue of how
these guys are treated once they
leave the service.
|
| 01:18:09 | He left at 16 years, four shy of
the 20 for retirement.
|
| 01:18:13 | So he got no pension, no health
care for his family, and no
protection.
|
| 01:18:18 | If his name comes out, which it
very well might, he cowl be a
serious target.
|
| 01:18:22 | >> Oh, yeah.
|
| 01:18:23 | Do you think the pentagon is
putting this out there that
they're at least looking into
whether it's investigating or
whatever looking into the
esquire article for possible
violations, do you think they're
trying to punish him?
|
| 01:18:35 | >> Well, I think there is a kind
of brotherhood about
team six
but I think all special forces.
|
| 01:18:42 | And I think that the ethos of it
is you don't talk about what you
do.
|
| 01:18:46 | The problem, of course, is then
when you transition out into
civilian life, not only do you
have a whole host of problems
that we've heard about, that
veterans have in general, but
you can't talk about what you've
done.
|
| 01:18:57 | What do you put on a resume'?
|
| 01:18:59 | How do you get a job that's
come
commensurate with the skills
you've learned, in his case 16
years as a navy s.e.a.l.
|
| 01:19:09 | >> It's a very exclusive club
when you talk to this man.
|
| 01:19:12 | What can you tell me about him?
|
| 01:19:15 | >> He's got a great sense of
humor.
|
| 01:19:17 | Something I think all s.e.a.l.
|
| 01:19:19 | Team six members have to have.
|
| 01:19:20 | They prank each other all the
time.
|
| 01:19:22 | They're very funny.
|
| 01:19:23 | He's very focused.
|
| 01:19:24 | This applies to all of them.
|
| 01:19:26 | He's no different than his
partners in s.e.a.l. team six.
|
| 01:19:29 | Any one of them by the way could
have shot bin laden.
|
| 01:19:31 | He makes that clear.
|
| 01:19:33 | Just happened to be he was at
that place at that moment in
time.
|
| 01:19:36 | But they're very focused.
|
| 01:19:38 | They're very aggressive.
|
| 01:19:40 | They're very organized.
|
| 01:19:41 | They perform extraordinarily
well under pressure.
|
| 01:19:43 | And the interesting thing is
these are all skills that he has
and they have that are
translatable at pretty high
levels into corporate america,
for instance.
|
| 01:19:52 | SO WE'VE TALKED TO CEOs ON THE
OUTSIDE, CEOs OF COMPANIES LIKE
Twitter who are very interested
in helping these guys make the
transition.
|
| 01:20:00 | We're hoping that that happens.
|
| 01:20:01 | >> Yeah.
|
| 01:20:02 | Last week, phil, I spoke with
brandon
webb about your story.
|
| 01:20:06 | Let's take a listen to what he
said.
|
| 01:20:11 | >> I personally think he had
some type of motive behind why
he would talk to esquire.
|
| 01:20:16 | I think the article puts t
community in a real --
the way they framed it puts us
in a real bad light.
|
| 01:20:22 | It comes off a bit as whining so
to speak.
|
| 01:20:25 | >> What do you think about that
comment?
|
| 01:20:26 | Is there any sort of ulterior
motive?
|
| 01:20:31 | If so what would it be?
|
| 01:20:32 | >> The shooter in our story did
not write a book.
|
| 01:20:34 | Others have written books and
made a lot of money.
|
| 01:20:36 | He's not capitalized.
|
| 01:20:39 | His name has stayed out of the
press.
|
| 01:20:41 | He's not been identified for
now.
|
| 01:20:43 | Almost a couple weeks.
|
| 01:20:44 | So I think -- I understand the
concerns.
|
| 01:20:46 | But I think it's clear that his
motive is the greater good,
trying to get this issue out in
front of capitol hill and out in
front of the private enterprise
community to help these guys.
|
| 01:20:57 | And I think it's a shame,
there's a lot of sniping back
and forth.
|
| 01:21:00 | It's kind of the way it is.
|
| 01:21:01 | But what this story did, alex,
s
team six as human
beings, not some jason bourn
cartoon.
|
| 01:21:09 | I think ultimately that's a
service to them.
|
| 01:21:11 | Because they are human beings.
|
| 01:21:13 | And they do have lives once they
get out of the service.
|
| 01:21:17 | >> Did he talk about standing
face-to-face with osama bin
laden?
|
| 01:21:21 | >> He did.
|
| 01:21:22 | In some detail.
|
| 01:21:23 | I mean, you should read the
story and get the full version.
|
| 01:21:26 | >> I have.
|
| 01:21:26 | I want you to share it, though,
with the viewers.
|
| 01:21:29 | >> Okay.
|
| 01:21:32 | Basically in that moment he sort
of rolled into the room after
the point man who had been in
front of him up to the third
floor.
|
| 01:21:37 | Had tackled these two women.
|
| 01:21:39 | Very bravely.
|
| 01:21:39 | Because they thought they all
had suicide vests on.
|
| 01:21:41 | The shooter rolled into the
bedroom and literally a foot
away was osama bin laden with
his hands on his youngest wife
amal's shoulders, either pushing
her forward or being led by her.
|
| 01:21:53 | Remember it was pitch dark for
all the residents.
|
| 01:21:56 | THE S.E.A.L.s OBVIOUSLY HAD
Night vision goggles on.
|
| 01:21:59 | He said the first thing he
noticed was how extraordinarily
tall.
|
| 01:22:02 | He didn't expect him to be that
tall.
|
| 01:22:05 | He had to aim his gun up.
|
| 01:22:08 | He noticed his hair was quite
short.
|
| 01:22:10 | His beard was quite short.
|
| 01:22:10 | He looked a little confused.
|
| 01:22:12 | did what they are
trained to do.
|
| 01:22:14 | >> It took just a split second,
right?
|
| 01:22:16 | It was over boom like that.
|
| 01:22:18 | >> Oh, like that.
|
| 01:22:19 | And of course these things if
you're there, if you're the
person, they seem to last
forever.
|
| 01:22:24 | But the whole thing took
seconds.
|
| 01:22:26 | Literally seconds.
|
| 01:22:26 | >> There were some real grave
concern.
|
| 01:22:28 | Didn't he have that thought
process.
|
| 01:22:30 | Now I'm into this mess, if you
will.
|
| 01:22:32 | How am I going to get out when
the chopper crashed inside the
compound, right?
|
| 01:22:36 | They were worried that they were
going to get there before the
pakistani military might get
there.
|
| 01:22:42 | >> Well, there have been all
sorts of conversations before
they went on the mission about
what happens if the pakistani
military and government grabs
them and throws them in jail.
|
| 01:22:50 | There was a talk about joe biden
perhaps coming
negotiating their way out.
|
| 01:22:57 | He thought about stealing cars
and driving to islamabad.
|
| 01:23:00 | Fortunately they didn't have to
do that.
|
| 01:23:01 | There was the ongoing concern
how do we make this mission
worked.
|
| 01:23:05 | They're very focused on
executing the mission.
|
| 01:23:08 | >> Yeah.
|
| 01:23:08 | I know that he's trying to get
attention for veterans.
|
| 01:23:10 | And the issues that they have.
|
| 01:23:12 | He met with members of congress
to talk about veterans'
benefits.
|
| 01:23:16 | Do you have any confidence
something will come of that?
|
| 01:23:19 | >> Well, you've just been
talking about sequestration.
|
| 01:23:22 | Congress is not moving very fast
on that stuff.
|
| 01:23:24 | But I will say they was there
just as an observer, as a
journalist for all these
meetings on the hill.
|
| 01:23:31 | He met with a very high level
and bipartisan group of senators
and members of congress.
|
| 01:23:37 | And they all were quite moved by
his circumstance and the
circumstance of all these guys.
|
| 01:23:42 | And they were presented with
some possibilities of things
they can do that don't require
legislation, don't require a lot
of additional money.
|
| 01:23:49 | But some creativity in helping
support these people who vice
president biden said are the
world's greatest warriors in the
history of the world.
|
| 01:23:58 | >> Let's hope something comes of
those discussions.
|
| 01:24:00 | Phil bronstein, you're welcome
anytime.
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| 01:24:05 | Thanks so much.
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| 01:24:05 | >> Thanks, alex.
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| 01:27:30 | Crude awakening and hollywood
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| 01:27:32 | As we talk payroll taxes,
they're certainly back.
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| 01:27:34 | Is that taking the fun out of
shopping?
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| 01:27:37 | >> That's definitely one way to
put it, looeks.
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| 01:27:39 | A lot of -- national retail
federation came out with a
report saying consumers are
definitely going to cut back on
spending on discretionary items
like going out to dinner more,
shopping, spending money on
items that they may not need
like their big items that are
furniture-wise.
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| 01:28:02 | People making $30,000 are going
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their paychecks.
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| 01:28:07 | People making $100,000 will take
a bigger impact.
|
| 01:28:12 | >> Tough on shopping.
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| 01:28:12 | That's for sure.
|
| 01:28:13 | What about the happy campers or
lack thereof at the gas pumps
these days.
|
| 01:28:18 | >> The gas prices are definitely
going up as we can see.
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| 01:28:21 | They're at $3.70.
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| 01:28:23 | Analysts are saying it's
probably going to go up between
30 cents to 50 cents.
|
| 01:28:28 | But that's not going to
impact -- it's not going to --
analysts are expecting that to
kind of go on.
|
| 01:28:34 | This really has to do with the
fact that these analysts are
speculating that it has to do
with middle east crisis.
|
| 01:28:42 | Possible natural disasters.
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| 01:28:43 | And also refinery issues.
|
| 01:28:44 | What's happening, we can't
discount what's happening in
southern california right now.
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| 01:28:48 | The prices in southern
20 a
gallon.
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| 01:28:55 | >> I hate hearing that.
|
| 01:28:55 | What about the oscar swag,
speaking of southern california?
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| 01:28:58 | It's a little lighter this year.
|
| 01:29:00 | >> Right.
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| 01:29:00 | I guess if you can call $48,000
a little lighter.
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| 01:29:03 | But compared to last year,
$60,000 it is definitely
lighter.
|
| 01:29:07 | What's happening, the reason why
they're so expensive is because
they keep adding in these trips
to these oscar swag bags.
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| 01:29:14 | But now this year it's hitting a
five-year low.
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| 01:29:17 | But some of the items that are
included, this is some of my
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| 01:29:35 | >> Okay.
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as washington tries to avert
another fiscal crisis people
across the nation are bracing
for the effects should the
SEQUESTER KICK IN ON MARCH 1st.
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| 01:32:59 | Just about every agency
including the transportation
department which oversees air
traffic control will be
impacted.
|
| 01:33:05 | Nbc's michelle franzen has more
on what's in store if washington
misses the sequester deadline.
|
| 01:33:10 | Michelle.
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| 01:33:11 | >> Reporter: Alex, like you said
just about every federal agency
could feel the brunt of the
automatic cuts if washington
can't reach a deal by friday.
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| 01:33:18 | The defense department could
take the biggest hit.
|
| 01:33:20 | They could see a cut of nearly
$43 billion which will impact
weapons purchases and base
operations.
|
| 01:33:26 | Under the sequester we could see
nearly 1 million layoffs,
including 800,000 civilian
defense department workers,
10,000 teachers and educators,
and about 1,000 fbi and border
patrol agents.
|
| 01:33:38 | But the sequester will touch on
every life of americans in some
ways that they don't even
realize.
|
| 01:33:44 | For example, the basic commodity
of meat.
|
| 01:33:47 | Consumers could face a shortage
of meat as the agriculture
department might be forced to
furlough meat inspectors up to
15 days.
|
| 01:33:57 | In the country's national parks,
a 5% budget cut could force the
parks service to slash services,
shorten visiting hours and even
force them to close off some
areas to visitors.
|
| 01:34:08 | As transportation secretary
LaHOOD EXPLAINED AIR TRAVEL
Could also come to a crawl.
|
| 01:34:12 | >> Travellers should expect
delays.
|
| 01:34:16 | Flights to major cities like new
york, chicago and san francisco
and others, could experience
delays of up to 90 minutes
during peak hours because we
have fewer controllers on staff.
|
| 01:34:29 | >> Reporter: Meantime in
washington, president obama
plans to speak with congress
this weekend to avert another
crisis.
|
| 01:34:35 | But both sides are ramping up
the blame game.
|
| 01:34:38 | Listen to what the president
said about the looming sequester
during a press conference
yesterday.
|
| 01:34:44 | >> I never think that anything's
inevitable.
|
| 01:34:47 | We always have the opportunity
to make the right decisions.
|
| 01:34:50 | My hope is is that we can see a
different course taken by
congress.
|
| 01:34:55 | This should be a no-brainer.
|
| 01:34:58 | >> Reporter: Solutions the
president is confident will
work.
|
| 01:35:00 | But unless he can cut a deal
with congress, alex, we could
see drastic changes kick in this
time next week.
|
| 01:35:06 | >> All right, michelle zen,
thank you for that.
|
| 01:35:11 | >> Joining me now with reaction
republican congresswoman marcia
blackburn.
|
| 01:35:18 | Representative blackburn, nice
to have you back to the show.
|
| 01:35:24 | >> Good to be withalex.
|
| 01:35:25 | >> The president says this is a
no-brainer and says the congress
can stop the sequester at any
time.
|
| 01:35:29 | How do you respond to that?
|
| 01:35:30 | >> Well, I find it all very
interesting.
|
| 01:35:33 | Because we didn't have to be in
this situation in the first
place.
|
| 01:35:37 | If the senate would have taken
up any of the bills we had last
year that would have addressed
this.
|
| 01:35:41 | And the house passed them.
|
| 01:35:43 | Some of them with bipartisan
support, alex.
|
| 01:35:46 | Sent them to the senate.
|
| 01:35:47 | They chose not to take them up.
|
| 01:35:49 | WE HAVE chairman McKie on
chairman of the armed services
committee who has the
legislation that would freeze
federal salaries, freeze the
bureaucracy salaries for a
three-year period of time that
would forestall the sequester on
d.o.d. for a year.
|
| 01:36:05 | I mean, my goodness.
|
| 01:36:06 | There are solutions there.
|
| 01:36:07 | But let me tell you this.
|
| 01:36:08 | If you were out with me this
morning talking to the national
guard, meeting with
constituents, going to a pancake
breakfast, you would have heard
people say, marcia, 2%
discretionary cut?
|
| 01:36:21 | That's a good start.
|
| 01:36:23 | Let's make it 10%.
|
| 01:36:24 | And let's protect the military.
|
| 01:36:27 | Don't cut them.
|
| 01:36:28 | Get over here and make cuts into
these federal agencies.
|
| 01:36:31 | Get rid of these redundant
programs.
|
| 01:36:35 | Let's make certain that
government is smarter and more
efficient and use this as an
opportunity.
|
| 01:36:41 | >> Now I'll ask you, were any of
those of your constituents, i
presume, with whom you were
speaking, were these folks who
might lose their job as a
consequence of the sequester?
|
| 01:36:50 | >> I had a great e-mail from
someone yesterday who has done
some supply work for the
military that is going to lose a
contract and part of a contract.
|
| 01:37:00 | And they were saying, you all
have got to get this federal
spending under control.
|
| 01:37:07 | And when you talk about those
that are involved with
protecting our nation, they are
incredibly concerned about what
the debt is doing to our
nation's security.
|
| 01:37:18 | You know, admiral mullen had
said on july 6th of 2010, the
greatest threat to our nation's
security is our nation's debt.
|
| 01:37:27 | So they realize this is not
going to be easy.
|
| 01:37:30 | Our small businesses know this
isn't going to be easy.
|
| 01:37:32 | But they know discretionary
spending has to be cut,
entitlements have to be reformed
and medicare and social security
our trust funds have to be
stabilized.
|
| 01:37:42 | And americans are up to the
challenge on this.
|
| 01:37:45 | >> What about, though, the
prospect of closing some of the
tax loopholes?
|
| 01:37:50 | This is something that even mitt
romney, your party's candidate,
campaigned on.
|
| 01:37:54 | But now the president is making
these suggestions, and all of a
sudden it's a moot point,
something that republicans don't
want to do.
|
| 01:38:01 | Where is the problem here?
|
| 01:38:02 | Is it because the president's
proposing it?
|
| 01:38:05 | >> No.
|
| 01:38:06 | And I would disagree with you
just a little bit on that.
|
| 01:38:09 | We have long advocated for
cleaning up the tax code and
doing tax reform is one of the
things on our to do list this
year.
|
| 01:38:17 | And even when you look at some
of these loan guarantee programs
like the department of energy,
my goodness, it is just waste,
fraud and abuse run amuck.
|
| 01:38:27 | And now we're finding out that
some of those that got some of
these loans are being sold to
china, interesting in china and
other areas that may not wish us
well that.
|
| 01:38:40 | Causes us concern also.
|
| 01:38:42 | So it's an opportunity there
again to go clean up some of
these loan guarantee programs,
get rid of some of these
redundancies.
|
| 01:38:50 | Do we really need 80 different
economic development programs
that are coming through the
department of commerce?
|
| 01:38:57 | Do we need 100 economic
development programs coming
through transportation?
|
| 01:39:04 | Do we need 82 different teacher
quality programs in the
department of education?
|
| 01:39:09 | Those are the questions that
should be asked.
|
| 01:39:12 | And our constituents are saying,
hold firm.
|
| 01:39:18 | Stay with this.
|
| 01:39:19 | Let's get government on the
track that it should be so that
our future is sustainable.
|
| 01:39:23 | >> That may be.
|
| 01:39:25 | But if you look at some opinion
polls here, this one from usa
today, the majority of americans
are supporting the white house's
plans for all these major
issues.
|
| 01:39:34 | Do you worry at all that the
republican party is not on the
right side of public opinion?
|
| 01:39:41 | >> I think that what people,
many people, whether they
support the president or us,
what they're saying is
washington doesn't have a
revenue problem, it has a
spending problem.
|
| 01:39:50 | And we want this issue
addressed.
|
| 01:39:53 | We want government to be right
sized.
|
| 01:39:55 | And if you look at some of the
verbatims on that, they're not
saying go spend more.
|
| 01:40:02 | What they're saying is, you need
to be spending less.
|
| 01:40:06 | And don't waste our money.
|
| 01:40:08 | And we hear it repeatedly.
|
| 01:40:10 | I have to tell you, there are
many of us that are in congress
that served in state
legislatures.
|
| 01:40:15 | And state legislatures have long
used the process of going in and
doing across the board cuts,
providing flexibility, which is
something we want to do with the
department of defense, providing
flexibility to departments so
that when you make cuts you say,
look, you got $1,000 last year.
|
| 01:40:34 | We're going to give you a 10%
cut.
|
| 01:40:36 | You're going to have $900.
|
| 01:40:37 | You go find where you want to
make those cuts.
|
| 01:40:40 | Now, that process works in right
sizing government.
|
| 01:40:44 | And people want us to have a
smart, responsive, affordable,
efficient government.
|
| 01:40:51 | And we're going to have to use
this as an opportunity to put us
on that track.
|
| 01:40:57 | >> So does march 1st come and go
with or without a deal?
|
| 01:41:01 | >> I would hope that march 1st
comes with the president coming
and working with us, alex.
|
| 01:41:07 | I have to tell you, it has been
so deeply disappointing to me to
see him go out and campaign
rather than coming to the hill
and saying, let's work through
this together.
|
| 01:41:17 | Because it's for the good of the
american people.
|
| 01:41:19 | >> Well, we do know that the
president, though, has reached
OUT TO mitch McConnell and john
boehner and made calls to them.
|
| 01:41:26 | We will see if those calls yeed
any information.
|
| 01:41:28 | >> Calls were made yesterday.
|
| 01:41:29 | A call was placed yesterday.
|
| 01:41:31 | It was the first time.
|
| 01:41:33 | But see, there again, through
the fiscal cliff issues, we
should have been working on
this.
|
| 01:41:39 | He should have been working with
us on an ongoing basis.
|
| 01:41:43 | >> Well, we're going to see what
happens.
|
| 01:41:45 | >> Hopefully we'll see that
happen.
|
| 01:41:46 | >> Now that congress is back in
session on monday.
|
| 01:41:51 | Congresswoman marcia blackburn
of tennessee.
|
| 01:41:54 | Thanks so much.
|
| 01:41:55 | >>> Hello, looeks.
|
| 01:41:56 | We'll go behind the washington
brinksmanship over the impending
sequester cuts with congressman
charlie rangel and with
outspoken former republican
congressman steve latourret.
|
| 01:42:08 | Also further resistance to the
white house efforts to curb gun
violence.
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| 01:42:12 | There's a nation-wide protest
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| 01:45:31 | >>> In crisis again?
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| 01:45:33 | With friends like these and best
week worst week.
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| 01:45:36 | Let's bring in the big three
panel.
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| 01:45:40 | Molly ball, susan delpersio.
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| 01:45:46 | And founder of spike the water
cooler.
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| 01:45:48 | Welcome, ladies, nice to see you
all.
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| 01:45:50 | Susan I'll begin with you.
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| 01:45:52 | This new usa today poll shows
49% of americans would blame
congressional republicans for
not reaching a deal.
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| 01:45:58 | 31% Would blame president obama.
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| 01:45:59 | Is that an indication to you
that republicans need to change
tactics?
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| 01:46:04 | >> What it's an indication of is
that washington needs to change
tactics.
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| 01:46:07 | Both republicans and democrats
and the president signed on to
sequestration.
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| 01:46:11 | It was a big mistake.
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| 01:46:13 | We said oh, it would never get
that far.
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| 01:46:16 | Well, it did and it was
self-inflicted.
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| 01:46:18 | All of them need to step up,
take responsibility.
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| 01:46:20 | For the life of me, I don't know
why they're not trying to get a
bigger deal.
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| 01:46:24 | It would be to both side's
benefits to get this off the
table for two years.
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| 01:46:28 | >> Marjorie, look at the "wall
street journal" in which peggy
noonan writes "the president and
his people overestimate his
position in this 50-50 country.
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| 01:46:36 | The president looks strong now,
but governing by freakout has
too many costs.
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| 01:46:42 | Again he's overplaying his
"
is she right?
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| 01:46:45 | >> Well, I think again this is a
congressional issue.
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| 01:46:47 | I think the president has some
push here.
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| 01:46:49 | But this is something that was
inherently built by congress and
needs to be solved by congress.
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| 01:46:53 | However, I will say favorability
ratings, you're right, they can
be fickle and they can change.
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| 01:46:58 | I think losing on this issue,
republicans and democrats both
already looking to who can we
blame if this doesn't work.
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| 01:47:03 | That is not the right slugs
right now.
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| 01:47:05 | We need to figure out how do we
make it work.
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| 01:47:08 | I think largely the american
people don't quite understand
that the impact it's going to
have on them as we talked about
LaHOOD, SHUTTING DOWN
Controllers, delays in flights.
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| 01:47:19 | There are things that will
impact each one of us that we
don't quite understand.
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| 01:47:22 | Though cutting spending all
americans want.
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| 01:47:24 | >> Shutting down flights,
delaying, I get worried about
the security of those flights,
too.
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| 01:47:29 | Air traffic controllers.
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| 01:47:30 | Everybody is worried about that.
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| 01:47:31 | Molly as we look at the
SEQUESTER DEADLINE MARCH 1st,
Friday, then there's this
continuing resolution with all
the spending authority for the
government running out in late
march.
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| 01:47:38 | I THINK IT'S THE 27th.
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| 01:47:40 | Then let's look ahead to summer.
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| 01:47:41 | The debt ceiling.
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| 01:47:43 | How does one play against the
other here?
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| 01:47:46 | >> Well, like you say, it's just
this continuing series of
deadlines.
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| 01:47:50 | We've seen what a way washington
has with deadlines.
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| 01:47:52 | Either they blow through them
because they don't take them
seriously or they go right up
until the last minute.
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| 01:47:57 | And I think especially with this
being the -- it is exhausting.
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| 01:48:01 | And I think people are worn out,
too.
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| 01:48:03 | They feel like -- I think part
of the reason that people aren't
taking these warnings very
seriously is they feel like
congress and the president have
been sort of crying wolf for a
year and a half now since the
first debt ceiling fight.
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| 01:48:15 | And they're just tired of being
told that the sky is falling
when it never actually does.
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| 01:48:20 | The government never actually
shuts down.
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| 01:48:21 | The stock market doesn't tank.
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| 01:48:23 | So they'll sort of believe it
when they see it.
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| 01:48:26 | >> Susan, let's go to our next
topic with friends like these.
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| 01:48:29 | WE HAVE SENATOR john McCain who
told a crowd during a town hall
in arizona this week
specifically concerning
immigration reform.
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| 01:48:38 | Here's some of that.
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| 01:48:40 | >> Cut off their welfare, their
stuff and they'll go back.
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| 01:48:46 | [ Applause ]
>> you're a senator with the
federal government.
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| 01:48:48 | And you're doing nothing about
it.
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| 01:48:50 | You said build the dang fence.
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| 01:48:54 | Where's the fence?
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| 01:48:55 | >> On the list that I showed
you.
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| 01:48:58 | >> It's not a fence.
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| 01:48:59 | >> It's not a fence.
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| 01:49:00 | It's a banana.
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| 01:49:02 | We put up a banana with about
$600 million worth of
appropriations.
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| 01:49:06 | >> The gop is supposed to be
shifting on immigration.
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| 01:49:08 | Can republicans really make
progress on the issue when
you've got one of the main
senators on this issue being
attacked by his own
constituents?
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| 01:49:16 | >> And this is an issue that
definitely has a big impact on
the republican party.
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| 01:49:20 | But what we need to do is see
elected officials, republicans
and democrats, step up and not
worry about being primaried and
do what's right.
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| 01:49:28 | The fact is that we need to have
a path for citizenship.
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| 01:49:32 | We need to see a reform in
immigration.
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| 01:49:34 | We should simply do it without
worrying about extreme --
primary from the extreme right
or the democrats also are very
concerned in looking at 2014
that they may be facing tough
races in their own states.
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